The only connection i've been able to see between Kefka and Celes is the fact that they're both products of the same experiment, just Kefka's went a little.... haywire...
Kefka and Celes
The only connection i've been able to see between Kefka and Celes is the fact that they're both products of the same experiment, just Kefka's went a little.... haywire...
Final Fantasy will always be one of the best... but just under Star Ocean.
The big question is out of all of them besides Kefka who has the GUTS to poison a whole entire kingdom I think it is insane and yet cleaver. I mean out of all the others they don't have quite the insane touch like Kefka. Sure he is insane but that is what makes him unique. But that is what I think everyone has different ideas but yea....Originally Posted by Vivi22
"I'm not Crying!" -Loz from Final Fantasy VII Advent Children
Sephiroth's got the guts; after all, he nearly destroyed the world. Not just metaphorically, like Kefka managed; his plan would have wiped out all life on earth. So I think it's safe to assume he'd have no problem with poisoning a few poor bastards. As for Kefka, he's just f-ing crazy. Kuja was obviously inspired by him.
I've read some reviews of Dragon Quest VIII, and the villain, Dhoulmagus, is made out to be "on par with Sephiroth" in terms of sheer evilness. Is it just me, or is he shamelessly copying Kefka?
i wasnt exactly saying that its best to judge on power if thats what you think i meant but i was trying to say just because he may not be the most powerful doesnt mean he isnt the coolest. (SPOILER)to be honest i liked kuja and a few other enemys better than kefka but not because kuja manages to destroy an entire planet and nearly destroys all of existence but because of his reasoning and his insanity. kefka is great but as the games got more advanced do did the ideas and enemys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
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Sephiroth is still the coolest villian out there, Kefka's got nothing on the ultimate coolness of Sephiroth
Sephiroth = Best villain ever
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What Kefka has that newer games do not have, is charm. It's not so much kefka as FF6 was one of the last games to have that old-school charm. FF6 was just about as complicated as a game could get at that time. It's hard to describe, but the super nintendo was the golden age of gaming, and FF6 was the golden age of FF. No game on the playstation had the same charm that the old games had. They didn't have the same melodrama and cheesiness nowadays as they used to. Which kinda makes them and by extension, kefka, more fun
That comment actually didn't have anything to do with you. I just thought I would point it out after you brought up the subject, as far too many people seem to equate destruction with depth when evaluating villains.
True but then again Kuja has been missunderstood but they are close. But yes "You sound like chapters from a self-help booklet," is the best line there is and the one on the Floating Content (which I'm not there yet on the one I am on. I have it on my comp.)
"I'm not Crying!" -Loz from Final Fantasy VII Advent Children
Kefka is the best villain ever for the following reason: he just ruins people's stuff and doesn't care. I hate it when games try to justify why a villian is bad. "Oh I'm bad because my parents never loved me" Shut up, who cares? Just let him kill a bunch of children, like Kefka does, and then we'll want to take him out anyway. I don't want to feel bad for the villain. I don't want any of this "well he's not REALLY bad, just misunderstood" b.s. Just make him f***king crazy.
No.
It's entirely possible to be both misunderstood AND bad. Is Emperor Palpatine somehow absolved of guilt for the single highest body count in all of fiction that I'm aware of, just because people didn't understand what it was that he wanted? Complexity doesn't mean their moral responsibilities are somehow negated.
Actually, my first thought when reading about Dhoulmagus was that he was a clone of Deathjester from Seiken Densetsu 3. Then again, Deathjester and Kefka share a number of similarities, as well.
This is very true, and largely the reason I rank Luca Blight and Roger Bacon as more successful villains - both of them have more than simple insanity motivating their actions. Kefka still has moderately more style than either, though.
And no way in hell is Sephiroth the greatest villain of all time. It’s difficult to see him as a villain at all when you consider that (SPOILER)he was brainwashed by Jenova in the first place. If Sephiroth is a villain, then so is Kain.
Actually, I would say Sephiroth is more comparable to Golbez than Kain…
Sephiroth was hardly brainwashed. He was influenced by Jenova, sure, but brainwashed? He still retained his free will and mental capacity; choosing to aid her was his idea, since even though he was born of Lucrecia, Jenova still functions as his primary mother-figure, not to mention that his genes are basically hers. He could have chosen to reject Jenova and become a hero, using his extraordinary powers to help people. What he did instead was try to destroy the world, so Cloud had to own his ass hardcore.
Nothing wrong with a crazy villain. ^_^ I mean, like I said, who cares if Sephiroth is misunderstood. All he did was just burn down a town. Oooooh. He so wants to be Kefka, to me anyway.
What I want to know his WTF is up with the TREE called ExDeath?!
Maybe “brainwashed” was a bad term, but he’s still been fed all sorts of lies about his parentage and the like. I guarantee you that if he hadn’t had the Oedipus complex for Jenova, he wouldn’t have summoned Meteor.
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