how many of you are cheap?

[Christmas]

It is one personally preferences that he or she want a challenges

[Shin Gouken]

but theres no reason to fight them if you dont want a challenge as they are optional

[Christmas]

Optional don't alway mean it is a challenge. It is something you wanna do or don't do.

[Shin Gouken]

Optional don't alway mean it is a challenge. It is something you wanna do or don't do.

they were blatently intended for a challenge

[Christmas]

There are a lot of different "ways" and "methods" to overcome a challenge.

[Shin Gouken]

There are a lot of different "ways" and "methods" to overcome a challenge.

by being cheap?

[Christmas]

Besides, as for these cheap items(Holy Wars, KOTR...), it is not like they appear on our inventory right in the begining or they are just brought from the shop.

We worked to get them so why can't we just use what we were rewarded from our hard work.

[Starcrest]

or not do 'em

[raskerino]

by being cheap?

Shinangel, it's not necassarily cheep, it's what people feel like doing- and that's okay, and you don't need to attack that every second. These games are not especially difficult, I could call the junction system cheep- with 255 vitality you're incredibly hard to hurt. It's not hard to get 2000+ life (tents made into curagas) and do a whole bunch of damage (good spells aren't hard to pick up) before leaving for Timber. Is this cheep? depends on your opinion. Should you be allowed to? sure why not, it's fun to do if you feel like it and for me makes the game more enjoyable. Should you constantly call people cheep for utilizing any of these things? no, though you can say that it could be more difficult, but then do a challenge instead of calling people cheep. Do Ultima Shadow's challenge or Hyprophant's or one of your own.

[Shin Gouken]

Shinangel, it's not necassarily cheep, it's what people feel like doing- and that's okay, and you don't need to attack that every second. These games are not especially difficult, I could call the junction system cheep- with 255 vitality you're incredibly hard to hurt. It's not hard to get 2000+ life (tents made into curagas) and do a whole bunch of damage (good spells aren't hard to pick up) before leaving for Timber. Is this cheep? depends on your opinion. Should you be allowed to? sure why not, it's fun to do if you feel like it and for me makes the game more enjoyable. Should you constantly call people cheep for utilizing any of these things? no, though you can say that it could be more difficult, but then do a challenge instead of calling people cheep. Do Ultima Shadow's challenge or Hyprophant's or one of your own.

hmmmmm everyone seems to be missing the vital point in my arguement. The game can be played however anyone wants. But seriously why bother fighting an optional boss that was designed to be challenging and killing it with a cheap tactic that a three year old could do. this is cheap because it destroys what the makers were trying to do and the whole point of adding the challenge in the first place.

[raskerino]

as lots have said, because you feel like it or choose to. That answers your question, if you want it to be easier and don't consider it cheep that could be what you do, it's part of the game, you may beat it like that first and then decide to challenge yourself further. This question has been constantly answered you just don't like that answer.

Edit: At leat that's how it looks to me.

[Christmas]

hmmmmm everyone seems to be missing the vital point in my arguement. The game can be played however anyone wants. But seriously why bother fighting an optional boss that was designed to be challenging and killing it with a cheap tactic that a three year old could do. this is cheap because it destroys what the makers were trying to do and the whole point of adding the challenge in the first place.

The makers made those "cheap" items you are talking about in the first place.

[Shin Gouken]

as lots have said, because you feel like it or choose to. That answers your question, if you want it to be easier and don't consider it cheep that could be what you do, it's part of the game, you may beat it like that first and then decide to challenge yourself further. This question has been constantly answered you just don't like that answer.

Edit: At leat that's how it looks to me.

most answers have ignored the point entirely and answered questions that arent even there. your the first to comment on what i stated in my original post and the majority from there on. The optional challenging bosses were my primary concern. I still believe they are cheaply beaten by the majority but of course those who do wouldnt see it that way.

the optional bosses are pretty much what i live for which is why i made this thread in the first place. i dont think people even know why they were put there in the firstplace. They have no place in the story and are there purely to challenge exceptional ff gamers. but if people dont think they are being cheap then let them think that. let them think they are fantastic at the named game, its no worry to me

[raskerino]

Why do you have to throw out lines like "let them think they are fantastic" show me evidence a lot of people think that, make little snide comments are what I've been talking about. Anyways, these bosses do have storyline value (FFVII's WEAPONS do at least) though not much, but just feel happy that you could beat it with more challenge. Don't make snide remarks about others. Anyways, congrats on beating it without KoTR or other strong moves! It's a nice achievement that's worth doing if you enjoy it.

[Christmas]

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=74871

This is cheap????? That dude uses KOTR.