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    Edward, Cecil, Rydia, Porom and Kain or Yang, I haven't decided.

    I'm serous about Edward. I've dreamt of using that spoony bard since the moment I lost him to the sea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
    How is Porom a better White Wizard than Rosa? And which spells does Palom learn earlier than Rydia? I've never used them in their higher levels, so I wouldn't know. I've also never used Boast too much, but I highly doubt that could be more useful than Summon.
    Well the stats are much better:

    Palom:
    Level 70 stats:
    Str: 33 Agil: 30 Vit: 40 Wis: 75 Will: 23

    Porom:
    Level 70 stats:
    Str: 23 Agil: 33 Vit: 28 Wis: 22 Will: 75

    Rydia:
    Level 70 stats:
    Str: 36 Agil: 33 Vit: 34 Wis: 63 Will: 54

    Rosa:
    Level 70 stats:
    Str: 48 Agil: 32 Vit: 42 Wis: 22 Will: 71

    And Palom learns his spells much earlier than Rydia... Porom-not so much.
    Palom:
    (Initial): Fire, Ice, Bolt, Poison, Sleep
    LV11: Piggy, Ice 2
    LV12: Fire 2
    LV13: Bolt 2
    LV14: Stop
    LV19: Bio
    LV22: Toad
    LV23: Quake
    LV26: Drain
    LV29: Dejon
    LV32: Ice 3
    LV33: Fire 3
    LV34: Bolt 3
    LV36: Break
    LV40: Osmose
    LV46: Death
    LV48: Tornado
    LV50: Meteo
    LV52: Flare

    Porom:
    (Initial): Cure, Libra, Sight, Slow, Hold
    LV11: Life
    LV12: Protect
    LV13: Cure 2
    LV15: Silence
    LV18: Berserk
    LV19: Exit
    LV20: Esuna
    LV23: Blink
    LV25: Confuse
    LV29: Shell
    LV31: Mini, Dispel
    LV33: Cure 3
    LV38: Haste
    LV40: Float
    LV44: Reflect
    LV48: Cure 4
    LV52: Holy
    LV56: Life 2

    Rydia:
    (Initial [after growing up]):Bolt 2, Fire 2, Ice 2, Bio, Dejon, Fire, Bolt, Ice, Piggy, Poison, Sleep, Stop, Toad
    LV32: Osmose
    LV36: Drain
    LV39: Ice 3
    LV42: Fire 3
    LV45: Bolt 3
    LV47: Quake
    LV49: Break
    LV51: Tornado
    LV52: Death
    LV55: Flare
    LV60: Meteo

    Rosa:
    (Initial): Cure, Libra, Sight, Slow, Hold
    LV11: Life
    LV12: Protect
    LV13: Cure 2
    LV15: Silence
    LV18: Esuna
    LV20: Berserk
    [Tower of Zot]: Exit
    LV23: Blink
    LV24: Confuse
    LV29: Shell
    LV30: Mini
    LV31: Dispel
    LV33: Haste
    LV35: Float
    LV36: Wall
    LV38: Cure 4
    LV45: Life 2
    LV55: Holy

    So yea, overall Palom is a much better (pure) Black Mage.
    Porom is only better statwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dignified Pauper
    you'll end up deader than dead. Edward's HP is simply horrendous.
    Don't be so sure. Beyond level 70 characters have different stat gains. For Edward that would be:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamefaqs
    Level 70 stats:
    Str: 42
    Agil: 41
    Vit: 26
    Wis: 28
    Will: 28

    Edward/Gilbert can get:
    str, agil, vit, will, wis -1
    str, vit, wis, will -1
    str, agil, vit, will +1
    agil, vit, wis +2
    str, agil, will +3
    str, vit, wis, will +4
    So I'm hoping that he turns out to be an utter powerhouse after level 70. Considering my stats will be 96 for Strength, 96 for Agility, 98 for Vitality, 99 for Will and 93 for Wisdom. This should equate to:

    19 levels of +3 to Strength, Agility and Will
    10 levels of +4 to Strength, Vitality, Wisdom and Will

    That'll give me 96 in Agility, 99 in Strength, 66 in Vitality, 68 in Wisdom and 99 in Will. Since multipliers are more important than the base numbers I'd prefer to "max" Agility rather than Vitality and Wisdom. Of course I don't know what bonuses Edward's "uber gear" will give so these may be subject to change. I've got to get through the game first. Either way Strength and Will are going to be maxed.
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    The level ups after 70 might have changed you know.

    They should make it so you can get a Dark Knight back in your party, not Cecil, but a new character. Hmm, limited Black Magic as well as Dark Wave, and new equipment, as well as the ability to equip Adamantium Armour?

    FFIV is my fav FF game, i went hard out playing it, more so than any others (Yet I still havent finished a single FF game -_-)

    But I would probably take the initial five at first, seeing as I still havent finished that dungeon, and Cecil, Cid, Porom, Kain, and Edward (Ive always wondered just how strong he can get)

    Andreil, using a gameshark, put characters like Edward and such back in his party an levelld them up like mad, Edward, with an Admantium Armour equipped, wasnt too bad, but you had to keep his HP high. Hopefully they remove this in FFIV Advance (After the Giant of Babil, they should keep it for the first time you have him)

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    On my hacked Playstation file, I had

    Andrel (Dark Knight) with some decent armour forced on him by hacking
    Kain
    Cecil
    FuSoYa
    Tellah (Abuse the Soma Drops!)

    Tellah also had the Adamant to make up for his stats (Yes, I got the Adaman legitimately!)

    However, in this version, I'l try Cid, Yang, Kain (Is Jump affected by row? cant remember) Cecil and Porom/Rosa

    Bah, only a few mages to choose from!

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    OK I just found out the stats for Edward's "Ubergear". FYI this doesn't include Adamant Armour.

    Apollo's Harp (Edward)
    Strength +15, Agility +15, Spirit +15.

    Red Jacket (Edward)
    Resist Fire, Strength +15, Agility +15

    Red Cap (Edward)
    Resist Fire, Stamina +10

    That gives +30 to Strength (irrelevant since you always get 99 strength with the decent level ups) +30 to Agility (MUCH better), +15 to Spirit/Wisdom (again good) and +10 to Stamina/Vitality (and so on). Taking this into account my level-ups should look more like:

    9 levels of +3 to Strength, Agility and Will
    20 levels of +4 to Strength, Vitality, Wisdom and Will

    Which if my calculations are correct should result in 99 Strength, 98 Agility, 99 Vitality, 99 Wisdom and 99 Will Go go Ubar Edward!!!
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    Here's a question. If you get the Rat Tail and thus Adamant, why the hell can't you tell the blacksmith "don't worry about the sword, I want the armor"??? You get a better sword than that anyway.

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    The armor requires a Pink Tail, not a Rat Tail.

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    furthermore, the lunar dungeon has even more stuff for edward and the entire party.

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    My team would be

    Palom
    Rydia
    Porom
    Rosa
    Cecil because he is required

    or maybe Tellah can substitute Rosa/Palom/Porom. XD

    RIP - "Fight" command. XD

    And I'm not too much into those LvUp things, but even Edward can get 99 Str with LvUps? O_O

    And what is Dejon? ;_;
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    Degeon is what's commonly referred to in the American games as "Warp" or "X-Zone."

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    Dude, I wasn't aware that you'd be getting characters back. I need to look up stuff again.

    Umm, I think I'd keep the orignal party except for Edge. I didn't like him at all and it took him forever to steal that stupid Dark Matter in the one for Chronicles. I just couldn't keep the little [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] alive. Every other ninja character besides him in the FF series is useful. ><

    So that means, Cecil, Kain, Rosa, Rydia, and Tellah. Because a white mage, a black mage summoner, and a double mage sounds great when paired with Cecil and Kain.
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    In the end of game, Tellah isn't restricted to 90 MP anymore.... right? o.o/
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    Rinoa Heartilly & Squall Leonheart = Isabella Swan & Edward Cullen.

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    Tella stays dead. C'mon, people.

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    I forgot he dies. No, really. I need to replay FFIV. And now. @___@

    Back on topic... exactly when do you get Palom, Porom, Yang and the Spoony Bard back? And at which level they are? oo'
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