It just needs to be re-asserted that it's the "bad" (examples of) goths (and emos) that everyone hates. For some reason they're just assuming they're all that way. I agree though, the ones that take it too far have no real grasp on reality. They want their reality to be hell so they have a reason to wallow in self-pity. But their life isn't any real hell so they either have to pretend, or over-react and over-dramatize situations that are nothing to any normal sane person.

But as I"ve said, I've known a few that don't fit the stereotype at all. A christian goth? Purely a style. Though I"ll admit a few that I've known have thought about suicide. It comes across a lot of "normal" people's thoughts too. I won't fault them for that any more than I would any regular person. Suicide's crossed my mind a time or two. But I've never considered it a serious though, and never attemted it. And neither have they. And they're certainly not obsessed with it like the stereotype dictates.

And venom. I think you need to mature a little. You have some issues ^_^' Were you picked on by goths or something? Is there some goth in your family taking it too far and shaming you or something? This seems like some personal vendetta