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    Default FF2 - Why the hell did Firion's magic abilities increase?

    Alright, this is boggling my mind greatly.
    I was running around at Mysidia, gaining some levels and stuff in order to prepair for the Warship.
    I have the somewhat odd party formation with Firion being the fighter, Maria the white wizard and Guy the black wizard (while Gordon acted like a fighter as well).
    Firion was the typical fighter dude, with high HP and physical attacks.
    He was heavily equipped, hell, he even had some stuff from Mysidia, like the Knight Armour and the Giant Glove.
    He had all the potential of a tank, and zero potential of a wizard, and he attacked, attacked and attacked with his swords during this long battle.
    When I finally won, I expected Firion to grow in HP, Vitality or anything related to a tank char.
    For some reason, he developed in MAGIC!
    His MP grew for 5 to 10, and his Magic Power increased by 1.
    He hadn't used ANY kind of magic at all, except for the Ancient Sword (Curse), if that even counts.
    STILL, he grew in MP and Magic Power.

    What's going on?
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    Did one of the enemies use the spell Swap on him? I think that the characters can get different stat growth if that spell was used even if he didn't use magic.

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    Yeah, if you're characters get hit by magic, their MP and Magic Defense will grow

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    No Swap stuff, but the enemies DID use lots of magics,
    like Ice8 and Slep4.

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    Eh, why do people make Maria a White Mage... In the begining she is much more proficient in Black Magic because of her higher INT. stat, and Guy is obviously supposed to be the fighter... while I beileve Firioniel can be anything, or a jack of all trades...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlareNUKE
    Eh, why do people make Maria a White Mage... In the begining she is much more proficient in Black Magic because of her higher INT. stat, and Guy is obviously supposed to be the fighter... while I beileve Firioniel can be anything, or a jack of all trades...
    Well, they *are* intended to be certain classes, but you can build them any way you want.
    I somehow prefer the Fighter/White Mage/Black Mage party, though.

    I think this is the intended party:

    FIRION: Paladin (high strength, uses swords and raises Soul easily)
    MARIA: Hunter/Black Mage (uses Bows, and handles black magic really well)
    GUS: Fighter/Monk (high initial HP and strength, uses Axes)
    LEON: Knight (uses swords, rivals Firion in physical strength)

    This way you'll get three fighters, a hunter, a white wizard and a black wizard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlareNUKE
    Eh, why do people make Maria a White Mage... In the begining she is much more proficient in Black Magic because of her higher INT. stat, and Guy is obviously supposed to be the fighter... while I beileve Firioniel can be anything, or a jack of all trades...
    Therefore, Firion is a red mage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlareNUKE
    Eh, why do people make Maria a White Mage... In the begining she is much more proficient in Black Magic because of her higher INT. stat, and Guy is obviously supposed to be the fighter... while I beileve Firioniel can be anything, or a jack of all trades...
    Too true.

    I always make Firion a Paladin type, Maria a Black Mage, and Guy an Axe Fighter.

    How for the other characters like Gordon, Josef, Richard, etc. I don't teach them any magic at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crossblades
    Too true.

    I always make Firion a Paladin type, Maria a Black Mage, and Guy an Axe Fighter.

    How for the other characters like Gordon, Josef, Richard, etc. I don't teach them any magic at all
    The chars do have higher potential in different things in the beginning of the game, but they become proficient in anything if you use them correctly.
    Also, I do like that Paladin/Black Mage/Fighter party, but first I'd like to finish the game with my classical line-up, Fighter/White Mage/Black Mage.
    Last edited by Peter_20; 12-21-2005 at 02:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_18
    Well, they *are* intended to be certain classes, but you can build them any way you want.
    I somehow prefer the Fighter/White Mage/Black Mage party, though.

    I think this is the intended party:

    FIRION: Paladin (high strength, uses swords and raises Soul easily)
    MARIA: Hunter/Black Mage (uses Bows, and handles black magic really well)
    GUS: Fighter/Monk (high initial HP and strength, uses Axes)
    LEON: Knight (uses swords, rivals Firion in physical strength)

    This way you'll get three fighters, a hunter, a white wizard and a black wizard.
    That's exactly how I set the group up when I played in Origins, except I made Firion my lead white mage, and Gus was my back up mage in both. Right now he has a higher white magical stat than Firion does, and I'm working through the Jade passage. It's soooo hard...
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    While I'm near the middle of the game, my character set up is mostly identical to most others who play. Firion is a white mage but good at attacking, Maria a black mage and is not bad at attacking, and Gus my best fighter of course but has some white magic spells for backup (Cure, Esuna, Life, etc.). I also have them all build up their levels for different weapons.

    Don't know what I'm going to do once Leon comes into my party later...any suggestions?

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    make him a paladin, since it's easiest

    or give him dual shields and make him fast.

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    White magic + armor = gimped

    Black magic + bow = gimped

    Any magic at all + sword = gimped

    Shield = gimped in general

    Double axes = roxx0r



    Any character's MP will rise if they lose enough MP by any means. If you get hit with Swap, Sap or Aspil, your MP will drop. Also, if you're playing DoS, the amount you can raise stats to varies depending on the enemies you're fighting.

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    I have made Leon and Guy the same. Fironel a Paladin and Maria a BM with any weopen she wants. I think your problem is that you were hit by magic.

    PS I give Leon and Guy booster spells like Haste, Drain, and Berserk.
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