Tis the best FF game created
Tis the best FF game created
AgreedWell, VIII was certainly a lot better than VII.
Agreed alsodid you know, EIGHT rhymes with GREAT, ?
Agrees with the agreedAgreed. FFVII was decent, but FFVIII was what got me hooked on Final Fantasy.
4 sentences actuallyOriginally Posted by Xzirox
i understand that people all have their own opinions but i cant help but feel angry at people who dont think VIII is the best. It has no close rivals, it was a complete game, i never enjoyed a game as much and got involved in the story+characters as much. a close rival would be 5 or 10.
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i dont have a fav FF, but there are some points in the game which i really enjoyed such as the war part where they clash the airships, and there are the downsides which later makes the game abit crazy, but yea ff8 is good, if i didnt have a choice i would say this was my second favourite game.
i agree with rocket edge 9 sucked every one loved 7 not sure why 10 the mane charecter did nothing but wine and good ol 8 the checters deep a history of a world far better than i could every imagen a story that was never dull the only way 8 could have been better would be to re make it on ps2 better graphics maby the chaecters could talk to better show the emoustions (confuesed, pissed) and talking in the FMV would rock!
But I prefer VI.
I love FFVIII but as I first begun to play it on my PS it froze and wouldn't continue no matter what that was really really really bad! *cries in a corner*
My final disk doesn't work. So annoying
Well yeah this game is really good..Final Fantasy VII only just beats it, yeah I really like the junctioning system, and yeah overall it's probably one of thee all time greatest RPG games to be made
i got my fisrt ff8 set when it came out for my b day and the second disk didnt work no biggy i had a mod chip coped a new one and got it to work then my 3rd disk so i bought a hole new set
i think some how i now have 3 sets of fully workin ff8 discs but i wouldnt sell any of them hahahaha
Ok. Why FFVIII sucks:
1. The graphics are reasonable but nothing special. Perhaps I was spoilt by playing IX before VIII, but they just don't look exceptional. However, for those of us who aren't graphics whores (which includes me) this is irrelevant.
2. Squall. A whiny self-obsessed brat. One of the most unsympathetic and annoying games characters of all time. Yes, he rocks in battle with Renzokuken, but he absolutely sucks in terms of plot.
3. The other major characters are completely ignored. It's ALL about Squall and Rinoa. Everyone else is there to make up the numbers. A good RPG should have focus on all of the party (see FFVI, or to a lesser extent FFIX), but VIII never gives the others anything. Quistis has 1 moment in the Training Centre and then never gets any real emotional moments or story. Irvine has his moment in Deling City. Selphie has Trabia Garden. Zell gets slightly more, but is still woefully underused.
4. Ultimecia. Worst. Villain. Ever. She has no character at all and is just generically evil. Seifer, too, is largely underdeveloped and could have been so much better.
5. The plot is on the verge of incomprehensible at times. Say what you want about IX, but at least you knew what Garland and Kuja were trying to do. In VIII, much of it is explained poorly, especially when you get to disc 3, where things become a fuzzy mess. And there's never any depth to the plot. They just go through the basic things and never really develop characters or ideas fully. For an RPG, characters and story are what make a good game, and FFVIII fails on both fronts.
6. Magic. Or more speficially drawing magic. Sitting through a Bite Bug fight for 30 minutes to get 100 fire spells is one of the stupidest ideas ever.
7. It has no sense of humour. V, VII, IX and X are all very funny, but VIII takes itself far too seriously.
This is not to say FFVIII is an awful game. In comparison to other FFs it sucks, but it's better than most RPGs and it does have its moments. The battle of the Gardens. Triple Triad. The GFs. Limit Breaks. But in the end, those just can't make up for the overall poorness of the story.
If you don’t care about graphics, then why bring it up? There is no denying though that FFVIII’s graphics were a massive step up from FFVII.
Squall doesn’t whine. At all. You may be thinking of Tidus here. He is, however, a rather cold and malicious character. You either like that or you don’t I guess…
True, but most FF games before FFVIII didn’t do much better in this department. The only reason a larger amount of characters received development in FFVI was because there was simply more characters to develop. FFVIII develops 2/6 of its characters to a large degree, FFVI develops 4/14 (Locke, Terra, Celes and Cyan) to about the same degree. All other pre FFVIII games save FFVII (and possibly FFIV) were a joke when it came to character development.
Don’t really disagree with you here, although this is hardly a failing exclusively in FFVIII. Chaos/Garland, Cloud of Darkness, Zemus and Neo X-Death receive no development yet are never scrutinised to the same level as Ultimecia. Besides, with villains such as Shuyin out there, I don’t really see how you could call Ultimecia the ‘worst’.
The plot really isn’t that hard to figure out when you think about it; even Time Compression is a rather simply concept to grasp on a superficial level. FFVIII is a game that doesn’t go out of its way to spoon-feed people information. It’s not that the depth isn’t there, it's just that you have to read between the lines to pick up on some of the finer points of the story (specifically, the character relationships).
With the refinery abilities and secret draw points, drawing magic from enemies become obsolete by the end of the game, It’s only in the beginning when you have to spend some time drawing magic, and I would say it’s more like 5-10 minutes per battle, not 30.
If you truly think this then you didn’t pay much attention. Most of the Laguna sequences were pure comedy.
Anyway, Final fantasy VIII has a few issues (namely its lack of playable characters) but it is still one of the best games in the series. Most of the time, the issues that people have with this game aren’t so much due to ‘flaws’ in the game, but personal expectations as to what a FF game should be. Many people don’t like it because it has a completely different style to the earlier FF games, others don’t like it because it isn’t FFVII. Everyone can have there own opinion, but I really do feel that most of the time people try to pass off POVish views as fact when it comes to the ‘failings’ in this game. Then again, that’s nothing new either…
Cause some people are graphics whores. I was trying to give general reasons as well as personal ones.
He whines to himself. His thoughts rather than his dialogues.
I can't really say about VI, given I've only just started playing it. I used that example cause I've often heard people saying it has 14 characters and they all get pretty much equal coverage. Games I-III used generic characters, IV had great character development for all of them (cept FuSoYa), V has done well so far (still only half way through), and the post-VIII games are all better at characterisation. Even X-2.
Shuyin was way more developed than Ultimecia. He had the big love for Lenne and lost her. Ok, it was hardly Shakespeare but it's more than what Ultimecia got.
We shouldn't have to read between the lines. Certainly not for the main characters. Selphie and Irvine's relationship should have been explicit and given screen time, because they're main party members. If it was someone like Zone and Fujin getting together, reading between the lines would be fine, but the main characters all deserve emotional moments, not just Squall and Rinoa. Time Compression was a nonsensical mess, but VII wasn't much better on this matter.
An average gamer will still be having to draw magic at the end of disc 3. That's about 80% of the game where they'll be doing so.
They were trying to be funny. And failing miserably, for the most part. There was the occasional chuckle, but nothing that was hugely funny.
I don't like it cause it has a poor battle system in comparison to other games (and FFs don't have one strict style of battle system, as each game is different) and the plot was underdeveloped, confusing and quite dull.
And I know that's just my opinion and not fact. After all, I enjoyed FFX-2 :P
Lol, I'm afraid you're going to be a little disappointed. There are at least 3 characters that received no development at all. Apart from that, no other characters get the same development as Celes, Terra, Locke and Cyan.
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