Look dude, stuff like DNA may not apply in FF IX world. Like why didn't Garland just clone another Zidane.Originally Posted by MaxGrin
Look dude, stuff like DNA may not apply in FF IX world. Like why didn't Garland just clone another Zidane.
He didn't have right equipment at hands or didn't know how to do it?
But it doesn't give anything saying that they Do have gender so u still can't say ur right.
Well, since stating they are sexless is the radical suggestion here (assuming they have sexes is the natural assumption, in other words), you're the one who has to justify your theory, not the other way around.
Anyway, they probably have sexes, because when the souls of Terra enter the genome bodies, they'll probably want to find themselves in bodies matching the sex they previously had :rolleyes2
They all look the same dumb***! Also, these are temporary bodies. The terrans do not live in these until they die. They don't even reproduce. Since the genome bodies do not age neither do the terrans making them immortal for the time that they are alive! They live for a while and then go back in cryogenic sleep. There is no sexes in the genomes!
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Normally I wouldn't even bother arguing with anyone opening their argument like this, but you might want to consider toning down on the verbal abuse....They all look the same dumb***!
You clearly weren't paying attention in the game. All the Terrans souls are sleeping (in Pandemonium perhaps, or just all over the place, not sure), and will continue to sleep until Terras assimilation is complete (which was stopped at the end of the game). Then they will all enter the bodies of the genomes, which are meant to be specially designed vessels. So your statement about the Terrans not living in the genomes till the die makes no sense. They may only be temporary bodies however, but regardless, they are meant to be filled with Terran souls at some point.Also, these are temporary bodies. The terrans do not live in these until they die. They don't even reproduce.
This also explains why they wouldn't reproduce: if Garland created all the genomes to act as vessels, he obviously wouldn't 'program' them to reproduce, because that would cause the genomes to grow beyond control, and there would be a surplus of genomes (presumably he made enough genomes for each Terran soul to have a body!), obviously not the point. This does not, however, mean that they have no reproductive organs, it just means they wouldn't use them if they had them! Zidane took a leak just fine, and since all the rest of his physique is human, it seems reasonable that he also had a penis (if you'll excuse me being blatant). Arguably, Zidane was different, but I still think that Garland didn't make it so that when all the souls fill up the genomes, they'll find themselves in an androgynous body, if they were previously adapted to a single sex body!
Girl: They are merely vessels. So am I, and so are you. But the trueSince the genome bodies do not age neither do the terrans making them immortal for the time that they are alive! They live for a while and then go back in cryogenic sleep. There is no sexes in the genomes!
people of Terra have been asleep for ages, waiting for their time to
come. When the time is right, the light of this planet will change from
blue to red, and Gaia will become Terra.
Zidane: Wait a sec! So the people of Terra are out to take over Gaia!?
Girl: What else can there be? Terra has always absorbed new planets to
survive. And when the time comes, the souls of the people of Terra will
occupy the Genomes. Such is the restoration of the people of Terra.
So I'm afraid you're wrong. The Terrans have been asleep since the big catastrophe, and will remain so until the assimilation is complete. Please do at least some research before calling me a dumb*** next time. I'm afraid it only makes you look bad.
You didn't get the point of Terra! They feed off of planets man! If u listened good u would know that the occupying of vessels (the genomes) happens every few hundred years or so. Also, it is true tat they rest until the time comes, but they awaken and then they back into the sleep once again after a period of time.
The genomes were not created to reproduce. They could have reproductive rgans yes, but u need the eggs and the sperm to reproduce which the genome bodies have not because that would be impossible for Garland to create thus making them sterile and unable to reproduce. And yes I can call u a dumb*** for now. And im not using verbal abuse with asterics, those are there because I do not want to say the word itself.
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You're wrong, deal with it.
What's the point of giving them reproductive organs in the first place if that is the case.
And yes I can call u a dumb*** for now. And im not using verbal abuse with asterics, those are there because I do not want to say the word itself.
Hey, wait a minute:
Doesn’t that imply that that they AREN’T in fact, asexual?Zidane: Okay, whatever... But hey, you have both men and women, right?
(Orange): Asexual beings would lack the genetic diversity to adapt to new environments...
EDIT:
...I could have sworn there was another post above this one...
Girl: What else can there be? Terra has always absorbed new planets to survive.You didn't get the point of Terra! They feed off of planets man! If u listened good u would know that the occupying of vessels (the genomes) happens every few hundred years or so. Also, it is true tat they rest until the time comes, but they awaken and then they back into the sleep once again after a period of time.
Fair enough, they go back to sleep once the assimilated planet is 'spent', but it is clear that this is not a process lasting only 'a few hundred years or so'. Mikoto says they had been sleeping for 'ages', implying a lot more (Garland's first attempts at assimilating Gaia started 5000 years ago for one).
However, since you clearly have no arguments for the Genomes being sexless other than spouting lame insults at me, I decided to try and speed up things a bit. It didn't take me long to find this:
Zidane: Hey, what the heck are you guys doing?
(Orange): We develop into vessels...
(Zidane): Say what...?
Zidane: Okay, whatever... But hey, you have both men and women, right?
(Orange): Asexual beings would lack the genetic diversity to adapt to new environments...
(Zidane): ???
Let me rephrase the bolded sentence: "sexless beings would lack the genetic diversity to adapt to new enviroments". The implication is clear as crystal: the genomes have sexes. And no, calling me a "dumb***" isn't going to help this time :rolleyes2 Something else I found too:
* (Bottom): In time, we will receive souls. Then our bodies will begin to grow.
In other words, they are probably like eggs; once the soul is implanted in them, they start to grow, and I would take it as a natural assumption that they would then grow into regular human beings, and start aging (the last point there is perhaps speculation, but at least they will grown into new people, presumably reflecting the soul inhabiting them).
Oh, and in future debates, you're probably going to be better off not insulting whoever you're arguing with. It just makes you look stupid. Especially if you get proven wrong. :rolleyes2
Hehe, you're right, there was a post there, but I suddenly realised what you did, so I quickly deleted the post
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Hey! i agreed with u that they can have sexes! Read my post!
...You can't jump boats after yours has sunk.
No, totally incorrect. First off, the vessels cannot produce eggs. There is no possible way because it has to start off with eggs (i found this out in health class:females have all the eggs they are going to have at the start of birth, but they start to be released during puberty) and since Garland would be unable to create eggs they wouldn't be able to have any. With the sperm I don't think Garland would be able to create those either since they carry the genes of the person who has them and the vessels wouldn't have genes since they were created artificially and wouldn't have the hormones to make them so reproduction is out of the question.
Second, souls are don't grow and wouldn't be able to make the vessels grow. The souls also wouldn't be able to make the vessels grow into new ppl because again they were artificially made and souls can't do that.
I just said a few hundred because i was just guessin, ok?
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