Are there Better RPG's then final fantasy?

[Ishin Ookami]

Id say hell yah. As much as I love the series, there's better out there. FFVI tore up the 16 bit scene, but I always thought Phantasy Star IV just had the stronger story.

I also thought that during the 32-bit era, suikoden II and Lunar: Silver Star Story were both stronger titles then FFVII, and on par with FFIX.

and as for the 128-bit era, oh goodness. disgaea, Xenosaga, Makai Kingdom, Shin Megumi Tensai, All superior in every important fact to most final Fantasy titles.

and lets not even mention how Zelda and Dragon Quest have consistantly maintained higher standards of quality each successive generation.

but what say the rest of you, if FF truly the king? or just the pretender?

[Vyk]

Xenogears, KOTOR 1&2, Baldur's Gate. I'm sure there's more. But I only need one example to say yes. Deffinitely better games out there. I'd play any of these games before a FF. And the only one that would have a chance at tempting me away would be FF7. I just like industrial-slums, sci-fi stuff. And Midgar area even has a post-apocalyptic mood. Yay. Not enough sci-fi RPGs. But at least they are branching out. Now there's plenty of modern-ish occult settings. I'm just glad "most" of the sci-fi ones are really good

[Madame Adequate]

Depends on the FF. FF VI, VII, X? Hard to think of much that's better - Suikoden II, really, and little besides. But FF IV, V, IX? Easy to name games better than those. Xenogears, Suikodens, Magna Carta, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Morrowind, yadda yadda yadda.

And of course, there are different styles of RPG anyway, so it can be hard to say with fairness. FFVIII is hardly the same kind of game as Vandal Hearts or Phantom Brave, in turn quite different from Jade Empire, itself dissimilar to Baldur's Gate, and then there's always MMOs to consider.

Out-and-out best RPG ever? Suikoden II. FFX in close second, had a shot at being first but Yuna. =(

[Dreddz]

There is no RPG series that is better than FF, In my opinion. And no games that can beat the lieks of FFVII,V,IV and VI. end of.
But there are some very decent RPG's otherwise, Games like Dark Chronicle, Shadow Hearts and one of my personal favourite, Alundra are all close to FF's power...

[Light Mage]

That's 3 of you who've said Xenogears now.

What's the game like/about and what platform is it on? I'm tempted to try it out for myself...

[Dreddz]

Xenogears is also awesome, its very long, got an amazing story, a Nice battle system. I dunno if it was released in New Zealand....

[Rengori]

Are you familiar with Disgaea? Or Phantom Brave? Or Makai Kingdom?

[Light Mage]

I may be able to get it in the UK over Xmas...

What platform has the best version of the game?

[Mo-Nercy]

Golden Sun, Tales series (especially Phantasia), Chrono Trigger. To name a few.

[Dreddz]

I may be able to get it in the UK over Xmas...

What platform has the best version of the game?

If your talking about XG, that wasnt released in UK either, gotta head to the states if you want an english version.....

[Madame Adequate]

I may be able to get it in the UK over Xmas...

What platform has the best version of the game?

Original PlayStation, and there was no PAL release. Get a friendly American to mail you a copy or something. It is unquestionably worth the effort.

Not as much as tracking down Suikoden II would be, but you're more likely to find a perfectly cut diamond that weights as much as a large watermelon.

Edit: Wac! I forgot about Chrono Cross. That one's pretty damn high on the list as well.

[Kossage]

Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and Fallout 1 & 2 come to my mind.

[Epiphany]

I would also say Xenogears and the Suikoden series. Suikoden = love. I'm glad I live in the states. ;D

But uh, anyone that's trying to get versions of these games, ever tried finding it online? quite easy. ;P I do believe Amazon even had Suikoden 2, a bit costly but well worth it.

[Madame Adequate]

Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and Fallout 1 & 2 come to my mind.

Oh God.

Oh Oscar no. Forgive me!

I forgot Fallout!

*Seppuku*

What's scary is I'm willing to pay that much, and much more, but I'm after an NTSC version as I have NTSC PS2 and my PS3 will be that also.

This is a great deal, though. I've seen the strat guide go for nearly that much alone.

[Epiphany]

Ah, I see well. THAT could pose a bit of a problem, yes.
That second one is a damn good deal and if I didn't have it already I would have bought it. Curses.