Terrestrial fossiles on GSL?

[Qurange]

It is not contradicting the tutorial,do you see how you still misunderstand things?
Ellone´s parents were dead.
However I bet people on Galbadia thought Squall was dead.But he misteriously recovers on the prison.The same goes with Laguna.
Suppose this situation:
Julia "dies" on a car crash.But then she got possessed by X ,recovers,chages her physical appearance and get to Winhill with Rinoa and her husband(not Caraway but Rinoa´s true father).Then she "dies again" along with her husband.
Now Julia recovers,turns into Ultimecia and later into Edea and went to Centra.
These things could had happened hidden from civilization.No one knows Julia is alive.That´s why it didn´t appear on the tutorial.It appears that she died because that was what people around the globe thought had happened.Same goes for Ellone´s parents.
Caraway says that Rinoa is his daughter but he could be lying or hidding something.
So as you see there weren´t any inconsistencies between my story and FF8 superficial story.
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People in the game can lie, that's true. However, I see no reason that the Information section in the tutorial would be inaccurate. That isn't given by any IC source; it's the same as a game manual, the manual that says that Quistis is 5'6" and her blood type is A. This is information about the world given to the player; not everyone in the world knows all of it, though some of it, sure, is common knowledge. Where things are in question, the Tutorial stated as much.

Unless you can prove that there's a good reason that the Tutorial, the manual, and, just not to leave it out, the Ultimania would be inaccurate as regards game canon, your theories are still highly AU ideas that don't fit with canon.

[Future Esthar]

Interestingly enough the Seed tests are on the tutorial section.
Now,do you think that Squaresoft put it there just as an interactive tutorial to help the player get the basics of the battle system?
Of course not.Would there be no need to make written exams to become a Seed it wouldn´t appear on the tutorial.Thus it is contextual and not absolute.
Also,how can you explain expressions like "Is still unknown" or "Its difficult to determine" on the tutorial?Squaresoft knows everything so either they tell it or keep quiet about the subject if they wanna to surprise us.They made the game after all.It would be as pathethic as if one find "The effect of the triangle button is there but is unknown" on the game manual.
Which means that the tutorial is context sensitive and not an absolute description by Square.

[Qurange]

Then let me be more specific. The information set in the Information section of the Tutorial.

I can explain such expressions by stating that some things were meant to be left somewhat mysterious, and many things were explained in further detail later. This doesn't mean that what /is/ given is inaccurate. Your analogy is fundamentally flawed because the triangle button has nothing to do with FF8's world.

Furthermore, your theories contradict information in the FF Ultimania, a publication specifically designed to give further background information on the game in question.

I would talk about what you're saying about the SeeD exams, but I have to ask you to rephrase that, instead. I'm not sure what you mean because the language is unclear.

[Discord]

Interestingly enough the Seed tests are on the tutorial section.
Now,do you think that Squaresoft put it there just as an interactive tutorial to help the player get the basics of the battle system?
Of course not.Would there be no need to make written exams to become a Seed it wouldn´t appear on the tutorial.Thus it is contextual and not absolute.

You know, the SeeD-Tests are meant to be a little bonus for you to simplify the game as well as permitting you to enhance you knowledge in the battle system. No secrets there.

As for the Information section, you can very well leave out some information, for the reasons named by Q above, however, that doesn't mean that the other date is incorrect. An analogy for you: It is yet unknown how to cure HIV, for we do not yet have a way of destroying the virus without damaging the host organism. However, that doesn't mean that we are not aware of the fact that it is a virus. See where it leads? Not knowing a part of something doesn't terminate the previously stated arguments.

EDIT: Just if you get bored, here's something that really explains it all
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=68618

Have fun!

[Christmas]

It is not contradicting the tutorial,do you see how you still misunderstand things?
Ellone´s parents were dead.
However I bet people on Galbadia thought Squall was dead.But he misteriously recovers on the prison.

No dude. The wardens and milltary personnels of GALBADIA knew Squall is still alive and also nor will bother whether Squall live or not in Galbadia.

Julia "dies" on a car crash.But then she got possessed by X ,recovers,chages her physical appearance and get to Winhill with Rinoa and her husband(not Caraway but Rinoa´s true father).Then she "dies again" along with her husband.

Why didn't Laguna or Squall change their appearance or get possessed by "X" after they are announced in the GAME as alive and kicking.

Now Julia recovers,turns into Ultimecia and later into Edea and went to Centra.

HOW DO JULIA CHANGES TO ULTIMECIA'S ACCENT???? THAT'S SOME TERIFFIC SKILLS YA KNOW.

These things could had happened hidden from civilization.No one knows Julia is alive.That´s why it didn´t appear on the tutorial.

How come you know?

it appears that she died because that was what people around the globe thought had happened.Same goes for Ellone´s parents.
Does that mean
Caraway says that Rinoa is his daughter but he could be lying or hidding something.

Edea said she passed her powers to Rinoa, but if your case apply, she can be LYING too. Then where do Rinoa got her powers?

So as you see there weren´t any inconsistencies between my story and FF8 superficial story.

Cause you said that everyone is lying and the whole story is a whole pack of lies.

I never said that Edea told Squall she was possessed by Superman because that didn´t happen.She said that she was possessed by Ulti.

She can be lying too.

I don´t deny that the apparent events were there.
I am just saying what happens behound the "curtains".

That is when it is support by the events in the game.

People don´t see it because the Pandora has the ability to become transparent(as we see when the Pandora approaches Tear´s point).

Screenshots pls.

Interestingly enough the Seed tests are on the tutorial section.
Now,do you think that Squaresoft put it there just as an interactive tutorial to help the player get the basics of the battle system?
Of course not.Would there be no need to make written exams to become a Seed it wouldn´t appear on the tutorial.Thus it is contextual and not absolute.

You become a SeeD by passing that exam in Disc 1 and these written stuffs here promote your rank so you can have more cash in your pocket if you want. If you dun want to demonstrate your 1337 gosu final fantasy viii knowledge onto the test, you can dun take them.

Also,how can you explain expressions like "Is still unknown" or "Its difficult to determine" on the tutorial?

It is pointless and meaningless to do so or they wanted to add the details in the Ultimania. How about they said "Squall farted exactly 1082 time throughout the game. The first time was in his dorm at disc 1...blah blah. It will turn the tutorial 1 millions pages long.

Squaresoft knows everything so either they tell it or keep quiet about the subject if they wanna to surprise us.They made the game after all.It would be as pathethic as if one find "The effect of the triangle button is there but is unknown" on the game manual.Which means that the tutorial is context sensitive and not an absolute description by Square.

[Discord]

No dude. The wardens and milltary personnels of GALBADIA knew Squall is still alive and also nor will bother whether Squall live or not in Galbadia.




Why didn't Laguna or Squall change their appearance or get possessed by "X" after they are announced in the GAME as alive and kicking.




HOW DO JULIA CHANGES TO ULTIMECIA'S ACCENT???? THAT'S SOME TERIFFIC SKILLS YA KNOW.



How come you know?



Edea said she passed her powers to Rinoa, but if your case apply, she can be LYING too. Then where do Rinoa got her powers?



Cause you said that everyone is lying and the whole story is a whole pack of lies.



She can be lying too.



That is when it is support by the events in the game.



Screenshots pls.





You become a SeeD by passing that exam in Disc 1 and these written stuffs here promote your rank so you can have more cash in your pocket if you want. If you dun want to demonstrate your 1337 gosu final fantasy viii knowledge onto the test, you can dun take them.




It is pointless and meaningless to do so or they wanted to add the details in the Ultimania. How about they said "Squall farted exactly 1082 time throughout the game. The first time was in his dorm at disc 1...blah blah. It will turn the tutorial 1 millions pages long.

Ouch... this is soon reaching a size of a novel.

And it does become transparent, he's right, but that's just a cheap effect. You know, when your team gets kicked out by TYPE11 or whatever the name was.

[MJN SEIFER]

Nothing suggest Midgar is Deling as suggested by the game

Oh really...

This places was taken by life energy In the past...

I haven't got it word for word though...

[Christmas]

Oh really...



I haven't got it word for word though...

[Discord]

Just out of curiousity, do you have all those pictures save or do you just draw them when you need one?

[Future Esthar]

I can explain such expressions by stating that some things were meant to be left somewhat mysterious, and many things were explained in further detail later.

Which means the tutorial is context sensitive and Square is saying "People found this through research but this other thing is still mysterious".
Otherwise they would just shut up.

No dude. The wardens and milltary personnels of GALBADIA knew Squall is still alive and also nor will bother whether Squall live or not in Galbadia.

I mean,citizens outside of the prison.

Why didn't Laguna or Squall change their appearance or get possessed by "X" after they are announced in the GAME as alive and kicking.

Laguna don´t really dies and Squall recovered because Ellone send him to Laguna(when a person get hurt or healed on the dream world the damage or healing affects the sent person also).

Cause you said that everyone is lying and the whole story is a whole pack of lies.

My definition of lye on the game:

To say something about an event that contradict what the writers meant for that event.

For example:
Edea-Ultimecia is a sorceress who lives many generations ahead of our time.

But the writers probably meant for her to live on the past and they decided to create the event in which Edea tells that(lying).

[Christmas]

Which means the tutorial is context sensitive and Square is saying "People found this through research but this other thing is still mysterious".
Otherwise they would just shut up.

It is when they decided to save the details to the Ultimania or there aren't any point of going into details.

I mean,citizens outside of the prison.

The wardens and millitary personnels can tell their friends and the news were start spreading. Also, the citizens of Galbadia dun care.

Laguna don´t really dies and Squall recovered because Ellone send him to Laguna(when a person get hurt or healed on the dream world the damage or healing affects the sent person also).

But the whole world thought they are dead like you said just like Julia.

My definition of lye on the game:

To say something about an event that contradict what the writers meant for that event.

For example:
Edea-Ultimecia is a sorceress who lives many generations ahead of our time.

But the writers probably meant for her to live on the past and they decided to create the event in which Edea tells that(lying).

Like I said Edea might be lying when she said she is possessed by Ultimecia, Squall might be lying when he said he wanted to save Rinoa but had something else in mind...etc if your case applies.

[Future Esthar]

But the whole world thought they are dead like you said just like Julia.

Hyne was smart enough to hyde Julia from civ.

Like I said Edea might be lying when she said she is possessed by Ultimecia, Squall might be lying when he said he wanted to save Rinoa but had something else in mind...etc if your case applies.

It´s up to the player who is lying to whom.The decisions must be based on game events or graphical details.

By the way,give me an example where the Ultimania contradicts my theories.

[Christmas]

Hyne was smart enough to hyde Julia from civ.

Why can't it be smart enough to hide Squall and Laguna too.

It´s up to the player who is lying to whom.The decisions must be based on game events or graphical details.

The decision is that you are lying if you base it on that.

By the way,give me an example where the Ultimania contradicts my theories.

The Ultimania stated that black magic cause deformity within sorceress which result in Edea's claw-like hand while you said she is so because she is a propagator.

[Future Esthar]

Hyne can´t possess Squall and Laguna because Ellone´s power got them alive.

[Christmas]

Hyne can´t possess Squall and Laguna because Ellone´s power got them alive.

Hyne is the almighty and Ellone is just peanuts like you mentioned.