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    Me again. If you look at the images section of this site you will see the picture Im talking about

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    My only Question is how did Ramza and Alma get out of Murond. Rofel said there is no way to leave. And if those two got out did everyone else survive. If not Why?

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    YO! I suspect that because he had all the Zodiac Stones, was a decendant of whoever it was that killed Altima before, or he is just plain rowdy that Ramza survived. I'm also quite sure the whole posse did too cause they were just as rowdy to be gettin' down like they do with Ramza and killing a well organized group of devils. I know if it were me I wouldn't be doing any kind of dying nor would my crew cause I just don't play that mess.

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    Im sorry, I dont under stand what your trying to say.

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    Well, I imagine that Hashmallum and Altima had the last two Zodiac Stones (Leo and Virgo by elimination), so Ramza most likely had all the Zodiac Stones by the game's end. There's no explanation of how he gets out, but the conventional wisdom in Ivalice is that he died in the last battle. Alma and Ramza we see are not dead, but it doesn't show the other party members. I like to imagine they made it though.

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    Orlandu cant die

    Everyone whos played with him to his max knows he truly is immortal. He would just Night Sword his way back and retire to a life of happy endings

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    Certainly the plot gives no reason that he can't survive. Officially, he's already dead when he joins Ramza, so he could easily retire in peace and quiet.

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    Thanks guys. Let me just clear this up. You think that they got out because of the holy stones? I was just wondering because like I said before Rofel said they could never leave.

    Oh and one last question (sorry to bother you again) Do you think that all of Murond Death City was destroyed in the blast that killed Altima.

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    I don't honestly know how they got out. The stones are one possibility considering their powers of ressurection.

    Of course Rofel may have lied to them.

    As for Murond, all we see being destroyed is the Graveyard of Airships.

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    YO! Myabe Rofel was saying that as in you won't survive.

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    Alright sorry to be so pecsistant. Thanks alot for the help!

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    Oh Noes Rofel said they cant get out. Maybe you forgot almost all the "Main bosses" in FFT also said something with the general meaning "You Will Die", in many colorful variations, why should Rofels threat have any worth

    At this point its a relative safe assumption that the stones can do so much more than we already know. In the course of the game we see them: Bring a machine to life, Transform a Dragon back into a Human . Transform multiple humans into Demons, Summon a being from another dimension, and even bring back someone from the dead. I dont think its too much to add "Teleport back to the real world" to that list

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    What do you mean bring someone back to the dead? Who do you bring back? By the way, thanks alot for that bit of info!

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    (SPOILER)Malak dies after the first battle with Elmdor, and the Stone he has feels pity for him, and brings him back

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    There's invisible text after the Spoiler: part. Just highlight the text to see it.

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