First official AC reviews are in. Do you agree?

[Ishin Ookami]

taking a look at gamerankings, you can see here that the first offical Advent Children reviews are in. And personally, I think these reviews have been bought by square.

EGM has been stating the same comments since the films preview in Venice. Its better than Spirits within (bullshizcz!), it features the only Final Fantasy cast people care about (FFVI fans, launch flaming emails now!), it looks cooler than anime and Hong Kong action flicks (since when did EGM or Ziff Davis publications in general even care about either?) and FFVII, the game that made rpg's popular in america. They've been repeating the same old comments time and again for so long that it really does feel as though they are reading from some sort of script. Yah, they touch on briefly that the plot sucks, then go back to trying to make you believe its the greatest film since Seven Samurai. I dont mind differring opinions, but fanboyish rantings from people who frequently boast about journalistic integrety gets a bit nauseating. Surprisingly though, they managed to restrain themselves and dock the film a 15% for the lacking plot. But still, their score of 85% is overly generous IMO

Gaming Evolution is just a bit better, once again they bust out the cliche mocking the commercial failure of Spirits within, then go on to repeat the same material without referring to anime or Hong kong films. They award AC a 95% despite admitting the plot is weak. Am I the only person who sees something wrong with that?

PSXEvolution UK's review is the most nauseating one. I mean at least most people who like the film can state that the plot lacked. Serverely. These guys are trying to tell you that the plot was "spectacular". I kid you not. In fact though they rarely have a negative comment they score the movie the lowest, at a 80%. And yes, the obligatory dig at sprits within is made.

You know, the irony is that all three publications are people who praised the film before and during its release, but have since then jumped on the bandwagon in favor of beating this dead horse rather then offend the masses. Offering publications an early exclusive for favors is not totally unheard of, and these reviews just dont really sound all that objective. I mean I can look at reviews for MGS and Devil may cry, reviews that are very generous yet they at least pay attention to flaws and mark the film on its own merits rather then make you think its better then products the target audiance has never heard of. I mean I really doubt the target audiance for AC had the patience to sit through Ghost in the shell or Crouching tiger hidden dragon, so why make the comparisons? and if the plot (a vital element needed in any movie) is so weak then how come the scores are so high? Michael Bay takes hits for his action over story approach, but Id call Armegeddon or Con Air a masterpiece of storytelling over AC anyday.

I dont want to come accross as a hater, but I do get sick of all the "OMFG, AC EFFING ROXXORZZ" comments and welcome those who can actually make a intelligent argument or point on the film instead of fanboyish ranting. These "Journalists" however just come accross as the former in their articles, rather then the latter IMO. But I could be wrong, what say the rest of you.

[SoulTaker*]

Somebody get this kid some hatorade, the action was outstanding, Cloud is a total badass, and dont forget Kadaj and his gang, they were some bad mo fo's as well, and then you add Sephiroth to the mix and you get one fantastic final battle. Dude stop hatin, this movies action was over the top, Spirits Within was total trash and only the most die hard of Final Fantasy fans liked it. Advent Children was everything I expected, the plot wasnt the greatest but if you actually paid attention to the game then it wouldnt matter, we got flying Motorcycle gun/sword fights, huge explosions, giant dragons, and fricking Sephiroth, this movie will appeal to ff fans and non ff alike, if you want a deep plot go rent dances with wolves, if you want adrenaline pumping action get this.

[Bushmaori]

I just enjoyed that they made something to do with 7. The plot was of course crap, the fact that they made new [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] up just to bring back Sephiroth was pathetic on their part. Sephiroth was killed, show me something new or show me something that happened within the game so you don't have to make [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] up, bringing him back just because the fanboys loved him is plain old cash-grab tactics. That being said I enjoyed the over the top fights that I imagined the fights to actually be like, outside of the battle system.
I enjoyed the movie for what it was, a 90 minute long fan-service.

TSW was not crap either, it wasn't the best thing ever but people hating it just because it 'wasn't true final fantasy' are idiots. Ever hear of not judging a book by its cover? If you didn't like it for what it was now that on the other hand is fine.

[Christmas]

taking a look at gamerankings, you can see here that the first offical Advent Children reviews are in. And personally, I think these reviews have been bought by square.

EGM has been stating the same comments since the films preview in Venice. Its better than Spirits within (bullshizcz!), it features the only Final Fantasy cast people care about (FFVI fans, launch flaming emails now!), it looks cooler than anime and Hong Kong action flicks (since when did EGM or Ziff Davis publications in general even care about either?) and FFVII, the game that made rpg's popular in america. They've been repeating the same old comments time and again for so long that it really does feel as though they are reading from some sort of script. Yah, they touch on briefly that the plot sucks, then go back to trying to make you believe its the greatest film since Seven Samurai. I dont mind differring opinions, but fanboyish rantings from people who frequently boast about journalistic integrety gets a bit nauseating. Surprisingly though, they managed to restrain themselves and dock the film a 15% for the lacking plot. But still, their score of 85% is overly generous IMO

Gaming Evolution is just a bit better, once again they bust out the cliche mocking the commercial failure of Spirits within, then go on to repeat the same material without referring to anime or Hong kong films. They award AC a 95% despite admitting the plot is weak. Am I the only person who sees something wrong with that?

PSXEvolution UK's review is the most nauseating one. I mean at least most people who like the film can state that the plot lacked. Serverely. These guys are trying to tell you that the plot was "spectacular". I kid you not. In fact though they rarely have a negative comment they score the movie the lowest, at a 80%. And yes, the obligatory dig at sprits within is made.

You know, the irony is that all three publications are people who praised the film before and during its release, but have since then jumped on the bandwagon in favor of beating this dead horse rather then offend the masses. Offering publications an early exclusive for favors is not totally unheard of, and these reviews just dont really sound all that objective. I mean I can look at reviews for MGS and Devil may cry, reviews that are very generous yet they at least pay attention to flaws and mark the film on its own merits rather then make you think its better then products the target audiance has never heard of. I mean I really doubt the target audiance for AC had the patience to sit through Ghost in the shell or Crouching tiger hidden dragon, so why make the comparisons? and if the plot (a vital element needed in any movie) is so weak then how come the scores are so high? Michael Bay takes hits for his action over story approach, but Id call Armegeddon or Con Air a masterpiece of storytelling over AC anyday.

I dont want to come accross as a hater, but I do get sick of all the "OMFG, AC EFFING ROXXORZZ" comments and welcome those who can actually make a intelligent argument or point on the film instead of fanboyish ranting. These "Journalists" however just come accross as the former in their articles, rather then the latter IMO. But I could be wrong, what say the rest of you.

Yes. We all know you hate AC. I wonder how many similar posts had you made regarding this topic already.

[Setzer Gabianni]

Somebody get this kid some hatorade, the action was outstanding,

Smartass, maybe the action was not enough?

Cloud is a total badass,

Not everyone likes the blonde girl


and dont forget Kadaj and his gang, they were some bad mo fo's as well, and then you add Sephiroth to the mix and you get one fantastic final battle.

True, I agree with that..

Dude stop hatin, this movies action was over the top,

Where was the story, love?

Spirits Within was total trash and only the most die hard of Final Fantasy fans liked it.

Nothing to say about that

Advent Children was everything I expected, the plot wasnt the greatest but if you actually paid attention to the game then it wouldnt matter, we got flying Motorcycle gun/sword fights, huge explosions, giant dragons, and fricking Sephiroth, this movie will appeal to ff fans and non ff alike, if you want a deep plot go rent dances with wolves, if you want adrenaline pumping action get this.

All movies have to have plots, and lovely, you thought the movie was great - but don't go telling people who didn't like it to shut up whatever.

SoulTaker*, it seems to me you have just ranted about the how film is great, and not bothered to quote, comment properly on the first post - now do you see why the original poster gets angry? When people fire back with comments like yours?

He doesn't want to seem like a hate, he represents my view as well - that he's just sick of the same "omg, FFVIIAC ROXXXERSZKDNFKDSN!!!" comments, ones that just dont seem to explain themselves as much.

Bah, he's also being open about his statement, but oh no, you launch into a rant..

Just comment on the reviews people. =o

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

tru

[Setzer Gabianni]

I also want to point out to the original poster:

You may want to reward your comments in a more user friendly way - some FFVIIAC fans may see the red light =P.

[SoulTaker*]

TSW was not crap either, it wasn't the best thing ever but people hating it just because it 'wasn't true final fantasy' are idiots. Ever hear of not judging a book by its cover? If you didn't like it for what it was now that on the other hand is fine.

I saw that movie for like the 4th time a few days ago, it was airing on the Sci Fi channel, and it is still as whack as when I saw it the 1st time, maybe I went overboard in calling the movie to almost put square outta business trash, it was a poor to decent sci fi flick, if your gonna do a sci fi flick atleast dont put the Final Fantasy name on it, say from the creators of Final Fantasy or something. Yes by all means dont judge a book by it's cover, but this books cover was good(that it was being a Final Fantasy title) but the contents inside were bad.

Smartass, maybe the action was not enough?

Where was the story, love

Go play the game again, theirs 50+ hours of it.

Not everyone likes the blonde girl

You must mean Tidus, because I know your not saying Sephipoo got beat by a girl.

All movies have to have plots, and lovely, you thought the movie was great - but don't go telling people who didn't like it to shut up whatever.

I dont believe I told him to shut up, and it has a plot, and like I said if you understood the games PLOT, the plot is that this is 2 years after VII and most the people in Midgar have a disease called Geostigma, and it explains what the disease is and how it works, they also explain the 3 clones intentions, I personally am glad that they didnt stand around for 130 minutes talking up a plot and making this movie as boring as TSW, they got straight to the balls to walls action, also this is about Clouds redemption, he feels responsible for letting Aeris and Zack kick the bucket, so he goes around in the movie seeking this redemption, if you like lubby dubby sappy stuff this is about as close as your gonna get.

And to sum up my feelings about the reviews "omg, FFVIIAC ROXXXERSZKDNFKDSN!!!". Yeah I think thats how I feel.

[Neco Arc]

We all know you hate AC. How many similar posts had you made regarding this topic already?

[Setzer Gabianni]

Go play the game again, theirs 50+ hours of it.

I AM ON ABOUT THE MOVIE, A GOOD MOVIE MUST HAVE A GOOD PLOT PLZTHXBI

You must mean Tidus, because I know your not saying Sephipoo got beat by a girl.

Thanks for pointing that out XD.

[Christmas]

The plot is fine.

[Foetus In Fetu]

You have to be fair when talking about Advent Children in terms of plot, because it's no secret that this was not originally intended to be a feature-length film and that the whole piece was literally cobbled together. The other thing is that this is the continuation of Cloud's story: if you're not interested in Cloud then this film is not for you, because the key plot points all revolve around his character development. They gave this film a limited scope in terms of plot, which was a good move, because even so it's lacking but the fact that they managed even a farce of a plot in such an action-dense movie is worth a thumbs-up.

I liked Advent Children. I don't think it "R0X0RZOHEMGEE!!!1", but I did like it: the visuals and the music blew me away, and I think the plot was almost sufficient for a primarily action-based film.

[TurkSlayer]

I haven't seen AC yet, but I must say I didn't mind Spirits Within. Sure, it wasn't great, but it wasn't absolutely horrible.

[Ishin Ookami]

Actually, look for a post from me on spirits within in that part of the forum later today.

As for AC, you know I do reviews on seperate websites, and reviewed it when the japanese version came out. I gave it a 3/5 on video game websites, because of the target audiance, I gave it a 2/5 on others. The 3/5 was for the video game audiance, because its a movie they should all see, and despite the unlikeable female lead (yes, Im talkin bout cloud) the turks and rufus had enough screen time to make me feel as though the film wasnt a total storytelling black hole. I deducted the marks for the whack ass plot, and for the amatuerish direction. Anyone who thinks this CGI matches spirits within needs their eyes checked. Tifa's fight with loz is more like a slide show, the characters move using motion blurs, stay in the same pose while the screen moves crazy fast, and animate only during a hyper quick scene change. Its enough to give a person a seizure. The characters move incredibly stiffly with no sense of gravity, weight, or substance. Whereas in spirits within, there were times you wondered if you were really watching live action. The scene where the phantoms attack the city in particular was masterfully directed. When that phantom passed through that ship, and it lost control, you could see the hover jets fluctuate, and the ship spin and tilt in natural ways. As the saying goes, Devils in the details, and Spirits within got that right where as AC just works to make you overlooks the style over substance. You should actually read all persons thoughts, and respond to them in kind before making judgements instead of responding in a rage just because they point out the flaws in a product you like. If I posted like that there would be a whole lot of flaming going on whenever someone slammed spirits within.

And by the way, I still say these reviews were bought. Favorable press in exchange for early exclusives. I used to work in the industry and I saw that thing happen all the time. you cant tell me this plot was "Spectacular". No Effing way. and when a magazine repeats the same comments for three years despite different writers penning the articles, there is something up.

[SoulTaker*]

Maybe Spirits Within should have bought some reviews, (I have no proir experience with the critic industry so I cant comment, I usually decide for myself anyway), and maybe square pictures would still be putting out movies today. It made 32 mil at the box office and it cost them 200 mil to make. TSW characters looked like dolls, they gave blank stares, whenever they grabbed something or where holding something it looked weird, and everything looked painted, it just didnt look as real as they pegged it to be, and when they kissed ewwww! The commando parts were cool, but it just wasnt that good of a movie, sorry. But Advent Children had a few problems as well, some of the fight and action scenes were a bit to fast paced and sometimes you couldnt understand what was happening, but that is one of the reason square said it was releasing it on dvd, so you could slow it down.