Because of the RevolutionOriginally Posted by nik0tine
Because of the Revolution
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Because the PS3 and 360 are targeted towards one demographic, and the Revolution is targeted towards another.
Oops, I didn't mean to give a serious reply. I meant to say BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE IS PRETTY SILLY.
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IMO, more is actually known about the Revolution than the PS3... or at least they're very close...
But I think the reason no one knows about Rev is cause Nintendo wasn't such a popular console this last gen, thus not many are looking for info on their next console... On the other hand, Sony is just a big name in consoles at the moment, so they just kind of overshadow Rev.
But dont worry, there will be enough info out on Revolution soon enough... you can bet people will be talking about it more then.
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Because it's a silly console using a gimmick to try and get a reputation, rather than a serious console using numbers and most important of all, games (Which is what the X360 and PS3 are doing.).
Also; What Old Manus said.
First of all, we don't know anything about the 'numbers' for the Revolution yet... And we don't know much about what the games will look like, course we don't know the same about the PS3 really...
Honestly though why do you think numbers matter at this point, we already know the graphics will be great if they're anything better than the current gen... And since when has Nintendo let people down graphically. Heck since when do the numbers tell us anything in advance how good Nintendo's console will look??? Remember pre-GameCube? had all the lower numbers, then it came out and had some of the best graphics of all 3 consoles...
And if your saying Nintendo consoles don't have good games then thats just your opinion... many other people like the games Nintendo's console better than the other consoles. The Revolution will most likely have the most exclusives this time around, due to the way the games will be different with its controller... Making it a must get console if you want the exclusives.
As far as calling the controller a 'gimmick'... just where do you get that notion? What about the controller is gimmicky? How would you even know that, if you haven't used it yet? I don't beleive you have the right to diss it until you've sat down and played with it for a while.
Plz note everyone that's used the controller, swears by it.
Its not a gimmick, its just a new way of playing. Nintendo is trying to advance controllers, not just graphics.
And its not like there isn't a backup plan, in case the controller doesn't work to well for some genre... Nintendo included a way to exand the features of the controller, or to even make it work as a traditional controller. (as well as included gamecube controller ports on the console for backwards compatability)
So what exactly makes you think its a bad controller?
Can any of you really back up your complaints at this time? I say we don't really know enough yet to complain... all we should do is speculate at this point... and once more info is known, or better yet, after we've tried it, then complaining might be valid.
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Nintendo's games so far have mainly consisted of Mario, Zelda, and other such series which have been around for Donkey (kong) 's years and have been milked so much it's emabarrassing, and the other games are available on other systems, save about 2% which haven't been very successful
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Developers have stated that it is around 2 to 3 times more powerful than a gamecube and the processor may be based on the one found in the gamecube. This is not confirmed but this, along with nintendo stating that they are working on affordability and innovation, rather than raw power, makes it the most likely scenario.
Well most multi-platform, next generation games have been announced for the PS3 and Xbox360. Possibly due to the difference in controller and the rumoured lack of power.Honestly though why do you think numbers matter at this point, we already know the graphics will be great if they're anything better than the current gen... And since when has Nintendo let people down graphically. Heck since when do the numbers tell us anything in advance how good Nintendo's console will look??? Remember pre-GameCube? had all the lower numbers, then it came out and had some of the best graphics of all 3 consoles...
And if your saying Nintendo consoles don't have good games then thats just your opinion... many other people like the games Nintendo's console better than the other consoles. The Revolution will most likely have the most exclusives this time around, due to the way the games will be different with its controller... Making it a must get console if you want the exclusives.
In that case the exclusives the revolution will get would be the left overs of the more powerful and more conventional consoles.[/quote]
Because it forgoes accuracy and ease of use for a mechanism that is designed to make it look new and exiting.As far as calling the controller a 'gimmick'... just where do you get that notion? What about the controller is gimmicky? How would you even know that, if you haven't used it yet? I don't beleive you have the right to diss it until you've sat down and played with it for a while.
Every alternate controller on existing consoles is a gimmick. None of them have replaced the standard controller because that is the tried and tested best method of control.
"Plz note" that everybody who has used the controller has been selected by nintendo. You hardly expect Nintendo to give this controller to critics now, do you?Plz note everyone that's used the controller, swears by it.
Its not a gimmick, its just a new way of playing. Nintendo is trying to advance controllers, not just graphics.
It's not a gimmick? Lets look at the defintion of a gimmick
"A gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries."
I think that sums up the revolution perfectly.
Add-ons that will cost the user money. Wow, I really want to spend extra to get the full use out of my controller.And its not like there isn't a backup plan, in case the controller doesn't work to well for some genre... Nintendo included a way to exand the features of the controller, or to even make it work as a traditional controller. (as well as included gamecube controller ports on the console for backwards compatability)
By your logic you can't back up the revolution untill more details become apparant either.Can any of you really back up your complaints at this time? I say we don't really know enough yet to complain... all we should do is speculate at this point... and once more info is known, or better yet, after we've tried it, then complaining might be valid.
Word/s.
everyone complains about the extra money for the add ons, when the system will be much cheaper, and as I've said before and Nintendo game that required an add-on had it with it, ie transfer pak for Pokemon Stadium, expansion pak for DK64, all included with the game that needed it.
As for gimmick, Nintendo doesn't want to be compared to the other two, if you try and compare them, sure it's a gimmick. But Nintendo is trying to go into another group all together. They're not worrying about the competition. And no matter what you say about milking their games. I'm sorry but third party developers milk their games much more. Final Fantasy for one, Dragon Quest, Megaman. They have more games than Mario and Zelda, Megaman has more than them COMBINED. I enjoy those games, and whether you admit it or not, you enjoy them too. Who honestly doesn't enjoy playing a mario game. You just won't go out and buy it, great, but if someone else has it, I know you'd gladly play it. Trust me, all my friends who say they hate Nintendo and all this other BS, love playing my GC with me. Because to be honest, it's tons of fun to play with people. I don't know any other system where I have nearly as many multiplayer games that I have as much fun playing with people as the GC or other nintendo systems. SO yeah, I love my GC, and everyone claims to hate nintendo.
People are scared of change, unwilling to accept. That's how some people are, but me, I'm looking forward to it, I see lots of possibilities, and no-one can deny how amazing the system will be for FPS games, I mean honestly people.
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But then these controllers cannot be used as standard as if they are used by more than one game people will end up owning several pieces of the same hardware.
Either they're going for the same market or a completly non existant one.As for gimmick, Nintendo doesn't want to be compared to the other two, if you try and compare them, sure it's a gimmick. But Nintendo is trying to go into another group all together. They're not worrying about the competition.
Judging by their appearances at E3 and the Tokyo game show I would say they're going for the same one.
Mario has featured in 106 games while Megaman has starred in 100.And no matter what you say about milking their games. I'm sorry but third party developers milk their games much more. Final Fantasy for one, Dragon Quest, Megaman. They have more games than Mario and Zelda, Megaman has more than them COMBINED.
Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest come nowhere near these numbers.
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No I play games because I enjoy them. Now if the games I enjoy are on other consoles due to hardware differences I will obviously go for that console. It's not about whether I enjoy the controller, it's the fact that the controller and hardware makes it unattractive to developers.People are scared of change, unwilling to accept. That's how some people are, but me, I'm looking forward to it, I see lots of possibilities, and no-one can deny how amazing the system will be for FPS games, I mean honestly people.
And first or second party Nintendo games have never been enough to sway me to their consoles. By scaring off third party developers they may end up with little else.
Jesus christ, I have alot of time on my hands.
Word/s.
I also don't know where people are getting this idea that it's unattractive to developers, I've heard much excitement from developers, including Square-Enix.
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What makes you think it wont be easy to use and accurate? From what I've heard its not only very accurate, but also its simple design by nature makes it easy to use as well. And Nintendo isn't trading gameplay for simplicity, as there are still plenty of buttons on the controller, and the motion detection features substitute other buttons, some of which were never there before. lol
And Nintendo is trying to change the standard, at least for their end of the market. Thats what the Revolution controller is trying to achieve. Its not just an alternate controller, its going to be the standard controller for the Revolution... meaning the majority of games on this system will be made with this controller in mind. And I can't think of many genre that wont work with the controller, granted that they wont work in the same way they work now... For some genre to be playable with the RevoMote, major control style will be changed... but that isn't to say it wont work with them. Some people will love the new style, and others will hate it, thats just how this is going to work. At the same time though, this controller will open/create many new genre in the proccess.
XD Oh come on... I seem to recall reading about quite a few actual critics getting their hands on the controller. Plenty of critics of Nintendo and even the Revolution have now had the chance to play with the controller... Their opinions change almost instantly. Yes, the controller at first glance may look like a bad idea, but when those critics finally did get to use the controller their opinion changed.
I also see quite a few critics of Nintendo complimenting the new controller these days... cause any good critic still remains open to new ideas. Even the ones that haven't tried it yet, admit it has some awesome potencial. Go do a search on any game site. lol
Since when has Nintendo been expensive? As someone else said, its most likely when a new add-on is NEEDED for a game, it will be included, normally for no or very little extra cost... and as with the EyeToy, for games that need extra add-ons, the games are released in dual versions, one with, and one without the needed hardware. So you can choose to get the version without the addon, if you already have it.
As far as the games go, several developers have said its not hard to port games from other consoles over to the Rev... And Nintendo themselves said there isn't going to be any noticeable difference between graphics on the Rev, when compared to the other consoles. So I dont think that will effect cross platform games.
And I dont see how people can claim Nintendo is milking their games... yes they do use the same IP characters to much sometimes, but thats kind of the charm of it. PLUS Nintendo doesn't just make Mario games... There are plenty of other games, that are just as good if not better. Games like Animal Crossing are so adictive and fun its not healthy. XD And there is no denying that the Zelda series is as good if not better than the Final Fantasy series. (although not really comparable... lol)
Plus all the game possibilities this new controller opens up... There will be a ton of exclusives on the Revolution, 1st and 3rd party. And those will be exclusive because of the controller, since both PS3 and 360 wont be able to use the same control those games need. If Sony and MS want to get those games as ports, they will have to integrate Nintendo's controller into theirs eventually.
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...and as usual, no one tries to have an open mind. Way to make gaming suck for everyone, guys!
I don't even see the point of arguing.
Maxi, you clearly don't like the Revolution, so why do you even care about it? Just ignore it.
Tidus, you clearly like the Revolution, so? Why bother arguing about it? Just sit back in the knowledge that you like it, and you'll get what you expect when it comes out.
It benefits NOBODY by arguing about petty, stupid things like how you like/don't like the controller, or how you like/don't like potential games, because it's not like you're going to change the other person's mind.
Enjoy the games you like, ignore the ones you don't.
Nintendo have just kept things to themselves IMO, Im sure in the next couple of months we'll see some Rev action.
But meh, the controller is still an oddity though.....
there's nothing wrong with healthy argument, no harm is coming from it. So let people argue, maybe some people enjoy it, ever think of that?
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