FF7, greatest game or not?

[Ansem/Sephy]

. . . ok . . . lets clarify somethin: X or X-2 is not the best game in the series!! They r by far the WORST! X had an ok story and a good ending . . . but X-2 ruined that . . . whoever said great voice-overs . . . have u even played the game??!!! the voice acting sucked . . . Auron or Lulu were was the only one with decent vocals . . .


Anyway . . . VII, IMO, is the best for these reasons:

a GREAT musical score . . .

a deep and complex storyline

the most developed character personas ive ever seen to date . . .

Sephiroth

a cool battle system (linked deeply with all FF i know [i liked Limits ])

and environments that took my breath away . . .

u really cant argue with that . . .^ lol these are commons grounds for anyone even familiar to the series . . .

[FinalCetra]

I have played FFs VII, VIII, IX, X, and X-2. There are aspects I like about each of them.

FFVII had an amazing storyline, true, but I like Xs storyline the best. X also has the spheregrid, and I love the spheregrid. In my oppinion, it is superior to leveling. FFVII does have some great points though. FFVII has the most shocking storyline of them all, and as far as I know is the only ine to kill off a main character that the player gets to have in the party. FFIX had great music, I love Mellodies of Life to this day, and it is a close second to a thousand words. FFVIII had a touching storyline, good for those who enjoy the romantic type games, which I found suited me just fine. It also had the biggest cast of chars to choose frim, I think. I would have to check that, though. X-2...It had a few weaknesses sure, but it was fun. Now, a great FF with sucky graphics was Final Fantasy Tactics. I still play FFT just to screw around. It is a really fun FF with a plot full of twists.

Overall, I think I like FFX slightly more than FFVII.

[crashNUMBERS]

Ok then, jimmy (Ansem (Random name, forget that I said is)). I want you to give me a short review on why you think this. Gimme your opinions on these five factors with a score out of 10. Graphics, Gameplay, Audio (Sound), Value, & Fun. Each factor having an explanation of atleast 5 sentences. That's not that hard. I just want to see why you think so. Not that I hate your opinion. It's my way of listening to people's explanations and reasons...

[Rase]

In my opinion, FFVII is not the greatest. It was a good game, don't get me wrong. I liked it, had fun, and still think it's a good one to run through from time to time (if I hadn't lost my PC CD). However, for me, I've always liked FFIV. I have no doubt that the fact it's the first I played makes me biased towards it, but even with that taken into account, I still find it to be at the top of my list. I just enjoy the characters, storyline, musical score, etc. especially now that I have it on GBA.

[Nick Schovitz]

No i didn't like FFVII it reminded me of an Anime program, in my opinion FFVIII is the best if not that then FFIX. But some people go with the original which I haven't played.

[DJZen]

FFII FTW

[FinalCetra]

Explaim why I like FFX better? Sure. I can do that.

With Graphics, I woulf give FFVII a 4 and a half. Let's face it, the inn game graphics were below average. CG graphics were good, probably worthy of a 6. But then, graphics aren't everything. I would give FFXs in game graphics a 7. Above average, but not the best. I had problems with the hair, myself. And though there were facial expressions, they were sort of...forced almost, kind of blocky. FFVII gets a 4 and 1/2 because the chars looked like squares put together to make a figure. The bacground wasn't the most graphic either. As I saids, the CG scenes were great, paticularly the Aeris Death Scene, but they could have been better.

Gameplay in FFX would get a 7. i've seen better, and much, much worse. With FFX the controlls were great, you pretty much forgot it was in your hand. There were some camera issues in some places, but for the most part, gameplay worked well. I ran into no bugs or anything to distract from gameplay, and was not hampered by misspellings. FFVII would get slightly lower, a 6 and 1/2. I give it lower marks, because the gameplay was good, but misspellings distracted me from the gameplay at times.

Sound...I would give FFVII a sound rating of 6. I give it only slightly above average, because the sounds became redundant after awhile. Now, I did like some music, Aeris' theme, the Turks music, and Sephies theme. But, the sound just wasn't all that great overall, some music was quite annoying. For the most part, one could pop in a CD of music while playing, and not miss much. FFX would get an 8. It had great music, though it also became redundant. However, it had much better sound than FFVII in my oppinion. The sounds it did have were just more pleasing than those in FFVII. I'm sure even the most hardcore FFVII fan could agree with that.

I don't know what you mean with Value...But fun factor, FFX actually has a slight edge here. Fun Factor for VII gets an 8. I loved playing FFVII, though I don't play much anymore. Gold Saucer was amazing, especially Chocobo Racing. The storyline kept one on their heels too, an excellent game certainly. FFX gets a slight lead, I would give it an 8 and 1/2. One reason is Blitzball. I love blitzball, it keeps me comming back. The spheregrid is superior to the materia system, and adds to the fun factor. FFX has very well developed characters, and definatly a unique storyline.

And there is my reasoning. Long, I know, but there is alot to say about both. FFX is my favorite game, with FFVII comming in at a very close second.

[crashNUMBERS]

Thanks and all but I was talking to Ansem if you read my post...

[raskerino]

I disagree those categories. They discuss graphics but not story, you could count that as value- but it really doesn't make sense to evaluate an rpg with such a system. I however do agree with you that Ansem/Sephy's reasons are pretty crummy, especially calling those statements undeniable.

[XxSephirothxX]

No, it's not the greatest, but it's fun.

[crashNUMBERS]

I disagree those categories. .

I'm treating it like a normal game. Not every game has a story..

[Ansem/Sephy]

I want you to give me a short review on why you think this. Gimme your opinions on these five factors with a score out of 10. Graphics, Gameplay, Audio (Sound), Value, & Fun.

An essay?? no prob . . .

Graphics--8 . . . FFVII had some of the best graphics on the PS . . . In fact, some of the scenes I thought were comparative to some modern games. The CGI cut-scenes were almost KH reg LV which, I believe, is pretty good . . . And the biggest reason I give it this rating is the environment which is, quite frankly, astounding . . . The compexity of the landscape compared to the simplicity of each character is quite amazing and gives a unique feel to it all . . .


Gameplay--9 . . . Well . . . honestly, there is little to no difference in the gameplay and controls than other FF's . . . But, I personally, prefer the timer to the turn-based fighting system. I think it is more fair than FFX's system . . . Not to mention, I find Limit Breaks quite enjoyable, and they probably inspired the Overdrive system as well. I'm sorry if I've less to say on this, considering all FF games have a single basis for their controls . . .

Audio--10 . . . The musical score in this game is one of the series' best! I think the only game that has better compositions is, perhaps, VI . . . Nobuo Uematsu blew us away with songs like One-Winged Angel and truly put his heart and soul into this track . . . This game, being made for the PS, had limited capabilities, and surpassed all expectation when it came to musical score. The music captured fear, power, love and humour in a flawless way, never before seen.

Please explain "value" . . .

Fun--10 . . . To expain this, we must closely examine all other catagories to see what we can make of this-- the story is unique and humourous and complex-- full of plot twists and suspense. This is a major contributer to the overall enjoyment of the player in any RPG genre. Music-- as stated before, this is an impressive catagory because this track helps us to delve into the twists and turns, the horror and suspense, the romance and joy of this story, like no other has . . . Gameplay-- the controls are still so similar to the previous games in the FF series, and with a few new takes, what's not to love? Graphics-- to continue this summary, I think the characters are wonderfully and whimsically made. But, despite this, it is the environments that truly make me consider this a strong catagory. With all this said, I hope you understand my somewhat biased views a bit better, and realise why this is one of the most fun games I've ever to play.

[crashNUMBERS]

Very good. Value; worth of the game. Is it worth to buy it?? Will you have it for a long time to play?? Replay value...

[dragoonknight_kain]

Why people think Sephiroth is so great? I really can't see him as such a great character. He's cool, of course, but I don't think he's that interesting. Actually, he reminds me of Fou-Lou, who, in my opinion, is a lot cooler.

[asukaevaunit02]

i first played ff9, thats what got me into final fantasy, after that i played between ff7 4,5 and 6, they were all pretty good, recently brought ff8 about 4 monthas a goan and finished it about 2months ago (reason for poor end of yeah marks and exams ) and i recently doewnloaded ff7.

ff7 is ok but is certanly not the best, still playing, but i have skipped foward to parts and it seems quite in depth, ( the only reason i keep playing or else i dont think id bother) the graphics a re pretty crap, the music is not bad, (but all final fantasies have high standard of music anyway) the characters, werent my favourite, i didnt like half of them, especially barret.

i havent played ffx or ffx-2 coz i dont have a ps2, i do intend to play them one day though.

in my opinion its a tie between ff9 and ff8 (cant decide which i like better) maybe i like ff8 as much as ff9 is because i brought it, where as i was given ff9
2nd is ff5: i love the job system great, playin atm
3rd: ff7 only i havnt finished ff4 and ff6 and it has slightly better graphics
4th, ff6 and ff4

my god is siad a lot of s**t

well thats definately my 50 cents worth! lol