while in space she is possessed by ultameciaOriginally Posted by omegaweapon2005
while in space she is possessed by ultamecia
the game of deaths is mine to play but the game of life belongs to another entirely
Lets get this straight...
Rinoa is NOT Ultimecia, Square has said ( this is a fact ) that sorcerresses live normal lifespans. Ultimecia lives " many generations in the future ". If anybody is confused about what a "generation" is, it is the average span of time between the birth of parents and that of their chilren. Roughly 25 to 45 years, many generations probably meaning like 250 years in the future ( at least ). Rinoa cannot possibly live that long...Riona obviously cannot be her.
Jenova is NOT Ultimecia, Jenova is more like a retarted mass of limbs and such, she looks nothing like her. Nanaki at the end of FF7 runs and sees Midgar, hundreds of years after the events of FF7. Midgar is still there. Why isnt it seen in FF8? Because FF7 and FF8 are not connected. And if they were, Jenova could not have survived the hundreds of years after the events of FF7. In FF7, Jenova does not talk, she is a monster not a actual person. So how did this monstrosity make the jump from retarted mass of limbs to tyrannical queen of compressed time? She didnt, because the games arent related.
Squall is NOT Griever, he was created on the spot by Ultimecia by taking Squall's thoughts and transforming them into the beast you fight. If the R=U theory has been proven false ( which it has been "see up above" ), then obviously so is this one. Squall could not have lived hundreds of years in the future, he is human and has a normal life span. Thus, Squall cannot possibly be Griever.
The evidence given by Square is irrefutable ( they have the last word on the subject ). R=U and S=G simply is not possible. You cannot say that there is still evidence unless you dont believe Square ( and that makes you a fool ). The J=U is simply ridiculous, for this to be true means all the FFs must be related. But they arent. All the FF are seperate games. The music, magic, creatures, etc. are there to help continue the traditions and quality of one of the best game series ever made.
These theories CANNOT be true, Square has confirmed it, so drop it.
The topic:
The "Is Rinoa really you know who"
Ive got one thing to say. no, she is not voldemort.
I would have liked it if it were true. I think it would have added depth to a very shallow villain, and give the story a hint of tragedy, but still leave us with a happy ending and the hope that the possible future which they experienced will change what their fates become.
I believe in the power of humanity.
I agree completely. I wish they developed it to fit the plot, but I guess you got to appreciate it for what it is, not for what it isnt.
Its still my favorite game and still has a satisfying ending, thats what counts for me.
Doesn't it say something about this in the announcement?
Rinoa is not Ultimecia. Stop talking about it already.
You don't hear the symphony I hear...
concerning the whole j=u debate theoretically it could be possible.....but it isnt! lol
it also says no more R=U threads to be made
as far as i'm concerned, just beacause some guy says its true and makes some crackpot "proof" doesnt mean anything.
It probabley went a bit like this:
Drunk man 1: dude, rinoa is ultimooosia man
Drunk man 2: totally
Geek: omg that could totally be true, let me find some evidense backing up that crazy stupid, unrealistic, insane and whacky theory
next day
Geek: I posted it all over the internet guys
Sober man 1: we were joking man
Sober man 2: smurfing idiot
Geek: Boo hoo
Yes. It is time to start making threads that say Rinoa is equal to Ellone.it also says no more R=U threads to be made
Dude, I beat you to it ages ago.The topic:
The "Is Rinoa really you know who"
Ive got one thing to say. no, she is not voldemort.
sry.
That would mean Squall made out with his foster sister >_<
Remember that thing about symbolism I was talking about? Well consider that, and U/G is the evil R/S.
I'm really sorry, but if Rinoa WAS Ultimecia, then she would be killing herself. Which would be impossible, because if Squall and co. DID kill Ultimecia, then Rinoa should've vanished forever (probably leaving Squall heartbroken and depressed), same with Squall fighting Griever. So therefore, the theory is false. Actually, I thought Griever was Seifer and Ultimecia was another form of Edea. Oh dammit, I have that choir song in my head from the beginning of the game. And it was there ever since I played it (6 months ago).
Let's kick Emerald Weapon's arse with Vincent's Death Penalty in one shot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cXfeCC6_ac
totally true.
OMG...not another thread about this...Fact 8: There are 3 Full Motion Video shots of Ultimecia in the game, all are at the ending, and last less than 1/10th of a second each, barely visible (did you notice them?). Why would square go to all the trouble of making the fmv if no one were to see it? Square aren't stupid, they wouldn't waste time and money for nothing.Anyway, back to Fact 8 ...I have recorded the begining and end (some other cool parts too) of Final Fantasy VIII on a DVD and watch it every once in while. I put it on yesterday to watch for fun with my sister, and decided (for the 1st time) to watch the ending in slow motion cause it goes by so fast. And you get to see a lot of things you can't really notice watching it regular, including Ultimecia at the end, and they show her a few times in different positions, and then right after that it goes back to Rinoa. While I think it would be very interesting for them to be the same person, but they aren't. My views are basically the same from what everyone else said about Rinoa not being Ulti. Square might have just put it in there to either: A: trick us or B: put a FMV of her just cause we really never got to see her up close. And don't forget, Squall was going crazy, and a lot of random scenes were popping through his mind, and it would make sense for Ulti to be there cause he just fought her, and cause she's the effin' villian in the game!!! But they did put it there intentionally. If it were anyone in the game, I believe it would be Edea. Here's my theory from the other thread:
1st of all: Ultimecia looks nothing like Rinoa (my weakest reason)
If Sorceresses are immortal (as mentioned previously in other threads) then their appearence really wouldn't change that much. We see Edea at the orphanage 17 years before with Laguna, and during the credits. Even when she's pocessed she looks similar.
2nd: Her castle is also convenietly right next to the orphanage. Hmm...
3rd: There are all of those White SeeDs lying dead on the ground. Wouldn't it be ironic if she killed them? Edea, the one who took care of them and suddenly be the one who takes their lives...
4th: At the end of the game, when Squall is in the past with Matron, Ultimecia appears and gives her powers to Edea/Matron. If she was indeed Rinoa, she would have gone to a period in time where Rinoa was, and give her powers to Rinoa to power up her past self. But no, she gives them to Edea, which will give her stronger power.
5th: At the end of disc 2 Edea (being pocessed by Ultimecia) says to Squall something like, "So you are the SeeD destined to face me." We don't know at this point that she isn't Ultimecia, so we believe Edea is talking about herself, and that we're destined to face Edea, and that Edea is the ultimate villian in the game, until we find out about Ultimecia.
Alright...beddy bye time for me...:kaosleep:
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