Cloud or Squall?

[Psydekick]

Huh

[Yuffie514]

Squall. the best man should be placed as the first option in the poll (but Red is creaming Blue of course)...

[Moon Rabbits]

Cloud, EASILY. Squall's strength relies entirely on Guardian Forces. Without them, he's nothing. He's certainly physically fit, and perhaps even up to Olympian standards, but he's not a superman like Cloud. In Advent Children, Cloud is shown chopping massive chunks of concrete and steel in half, using telekinesis without equipping any Materia (how the hell else do you think he flies like that?), swinging a sword that no doubt weighs at least a hundred pounds around like a drumstick, surviving stratospheric falls without so much as a scratch, and defeating no less than three deadly super-enemies in rapid succession before finally tiring out and succumbing to a gunshot, and even then he was only knocked out, as actual resurrection is impossible. There literally is no question of who would be victorious. The difference between the easily abused game mechanics of FFVII and those of FFVIII are that those of VII are shown to actually be a fairly good approximation of the "real" abilities of the characters.

Hey buddy, How about NOT spoiling Advent Children for those of us who've got too small a hard drive to download it!

[skatehatedestroy]

Cloud, cos i dont have FFVIII

[Psydekick]

Ah now which one of their lovers is better Aeris or Rinoa

[skatehatedestroy]

Aeris, cos she dies, lol

[MetaphysicalManifestation]

Tifa.

Although, wouldn't it be better to make another thread for this...?

[Moon Rabbits]

Rinoa. By far.

[*~Endless Night~*]

I love them both but I think I have to say Cloud

[Psydekick]

Tifa.

Although, wouldn't it be better to make another thread for this...?

Ok (I won't make another thread just forget it)

[Alexander]

Rinoa, even though I don't like hr. It's just because she manages to be alive the whole gme, that's all. :rolleyes2

[Magoichi92]

I like Tifa better, but i'm not going to fight about it, everyone has there own opinion

[Slade]

Probably Aeris. I like Rinoa too but Aeris a little more. I don't like Tifa one bit (well, actually, I like to use her, I just don't like her personality and such)

[Zechs]

I remember that Game Informer had a poll about this very topic. A duel between Cloud or Squall. But the ironic thing was that Berret interfered and won. It was a cage match between the two of them, they fought, Cloud shattered the blade on Squalls GunBlade, then he blasted Cloud. Barret was in the corner and fired on Squall.
Thats how that was anyway. I personally choose Cloud.

[?????]

Well, only one guy answered me. It could be worse. It could be... A SEPHY FANGIRL O_O (no offenses to anyone XP)

Well, let's go~

1- Man, I was kidding about Kuja's thing. Geez! -_- I still think that Kuja's Ultima > Sephy's lame Meteor, but let's continue.

2- Okay, if the GF won't take the damage, Defend certainly will. If not even Terra Break can stand against Defend, why would thirteen idiot knights with lame attacks be able to pierce it?

3- Well, let me quote you:

"Oh my GOD, people, he is not that great. Seriously, get your hands out of your pants."

That applies perfectly to Sephiroth and Cloud. And Zero, but that's not the subject XD~

4- Kefka _is_ that great! T_T

1) Kuja's Ultima might well surpass Meteor, but that's hard to determine, as I lack the thermodynamic specifications of the composition of the buildings on Terra. His Ultima did not actually destroy the planet; it merely leveled all of the buildings. We have the capacity to accomplish this right now with our nuclear arsenal, which has a total energy capacity of approximately 18 GT. Granted, our entire planet isn't covered with dome buildings, but if Terra's gravity is anything close to Earth standard, it isn't going to require much more than that. Meteor, by contrast, is big enough to where it can be seen from across the world. This requires it to be absolutely goddamned massive, added to the fact that it appears to be infused with magical power that among other things effected a dramatic temperature increase. At the speed it appeared to be moving (very slowly in astronomical terms) it would have to be massive to effect any damage at all, let alone destroy humanity. The asteroid that caused the K-T extinction event 65 million years ago was about ten kilometers across and unleashed an explosion with energy equivalent to 100 TT. Due to the nature of Sephiroth's plan, creating a new wound in the planet even bigger than the North Crater, which is at least a few miles in diameter, this must at least be repeated, if not exceeded. The precise dynamics of Meteor are a difficult issue, unfortunately, but at this point it seems likely that Meteor is more powerful.

2) I dislike arguing game mechanics when better windows into the game world are available, but since so many seem bent on doing it I'll play along.

Terra Break can easily break through Defend. It actually hits more times than KOTR, being matched in the series only by the Highwind's missile launchers. However, each blast from Terra Break only hits one character and does a relatively fixed amount of damage, as opposed to KOTR, which hits everyone and can do up to 9999 each time. Each hit from Terra Break does 3000-4000 damage and will almost always kill two out of your three characters. If you only have one character standing at the time he launches it, you won't survive even with Protect, Defend, and 9999 HP.

Oh, and those thirteen "idiot knights" you mentioned? You're talking about Arthur Pendragon, or at least an approximation thereof. Show some respect. Dissing the King is like saying that Jesus was a car thief.

3) First, Zero has his own series; come back when you've played and beaten all of them. Second, X is actually stronger than Zero. Third, Cloud and Sephiroth may be overrated in terms of popularity, but that in no measure lessens their actual physical strength. Also, overrated doesn't mean bad.

4) Kefka's entire story is lame and contrived, and Kefka himself is weak in terms of complexity; contrary to the beliefs of pretentious English majors and RPG nerds with body odor, he's actually one of the worst villains that's ever been featured in a videogame whose story purports to be serious. He has a high LOL factor and Dancing Mad to his credit, but that's about it. He fails miserably in comparison to Sephiroth, and most other villains out there as well. He's quite simply very badly written.

Slade, your response to Metaphysical constituted a really valid point and i'm impressed by your thinking., dodging the issue, and an inadequate rebuttal. Try again.