Hey, I resent that. I don't hate everythingOriginally Posted by Psychotic
Communists hardly count. They hate everything.Communists dont like it.
Hey, I resent that. I don't hate everythingCommunists hardly count. They hate everything.Communists dont like it.
You're a Commie, comrade?
Is this war now, dearest Resha?
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well, Raistlin and Bleys call me one, anywayYou're a Commie, comrade?
No, dear Fawis. I'm a believer in democracy! But Communism isn't evil, IMHO.
But what do you think of Communism, Jon Snow? (I'm always going to call you that!)
Who is this Jon Snow? Are you talking to the walls again? It's not good for your health!
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I think Marxist communism is a neat idea, and it would be nice if we had yet seen it implemented; Russia and every other country that has implemented it throughout history did so in a forced, totalitarian manner, whereas in Marx's theories it was supposed to happen naturally, and the only freedom people were supposed to lose was the freedom to exploit other people's labour for their own profit. However, judging from the USSR's economic growth over the first sixty years of its existence as compared to the USA's economic growth over the same time period (and especially during the 1930s), it appears socialism is a more effective economic system than capitalism, especially when you realize that the fall of the USSR happened after the leaders of the Communist Party stopped caring about socialism.
That said, I don't think it's at all likely to happen now, since the media and most of the government is under corporate control, and corporations clearly have a vested interest in not allowing a socialist system to occur, and thus work on subtly influencing people's thoughts away from socialism. Some massive changes would need to occur before such a system was possible.
Faris: He's a character in George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series; I referred to him in my user title at one point.
Last edited by The Man; 01-28-2006 at 10:26 PM.
Well, *stooopid*
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That certainly sounds like a much better form of Communism than the oppressive one. The infringement of Communism rights on people turn the majority of (mainly Socialist, I'd say!) off Communism. Makes them hate.
I for one, believe that there has so far not been any country which has followed true Communism (could this be what you call Marxist Communism?). You have places like China who are Communist, but even they're leaning towards Capitalism, no? I think the harsh, dictator-led style Communism is too idealistic, and not self-sufficient enough to work. In places like DPRK, you have plain suppression of people and their rights, and somehow, I don't think true Communism was intended to do that either.
Time goes by, and even all the small SE asian communist states like Lao PDR and whatnot are leaning towards a more democratic form of Communism; it's good to see. They're now holding elections - albeit, all Communist parties, but still! - and people are not in any way impeded on their rights.
What think you?
Jon Snow is a guy from a book, Fawis! -"a game of thrones". It's really good, read it!
China was figured out a winning policy. Communist socail structure.
Capitalist economy.
The last words of Oscar Wilde, to the wallpaper in his room - "One of us has to go"
Yeah, Marxist communism is basically the only implementation that I'd consider "true" communism.That certainly sounds like a much better form of Communism than the oppressive one. The infringement of Communism rights on people turn the majority of (mainly Socialist, I'd say!) off Communism. Makes them hate.
I for one, believe that there has so far not been any country which has followed true Communism (could this be what you call Marxist Communism?). You have places like China who are Communist, but even they're leaning towards Capitalism, no? I think the harsh, dictator-led style Communism is too idealistic, and not self-sufficient enough to work. In places like DPRK, you have plain suppression of people and their rights, and somehow, I don't think true Communism was intended to do that either.
Time goes by, and even all the small SE asian communist states like Lao PDR and whatnot are leaning towards a more democratic form of Communism; it's good to see. They're now holding elections - albeit, all Communist parties, but still! - and people are not in any way impeded on their rights.
China is successful right now mainly because it has a massive number of people willing to do back-breaking work for almost zero recompense. As time passes, it will experience the same problems that have plagued every other capitalist country throughout history. Same goes for India.
China has done extremely well. But it doesn't run on true, hardcore Communism. It can't possibly flourish like it does if it did. Implemented some good policies, cooked up by fine Communist brains - One Child Policy! How I wish India had this! - and whatnot. But not true Communism, I don't think.
The "one child policy" was prettymuch necessary for a country with such a population problem as China's, but unfortunately it's often led to female daughters being aborted, because they are considered to have an inferior place in their society. This will lead to additional problems in the future. The government really should give parents of daughters an extra cash incentive or something.
I'm honestly not sure what I think about that, because it's a huge restriction on people's freedoms, but then, overpopulation is an incredibly serious problem, and all the world is going to need to deal with it at some point.
ok we can make this a new topic.
Too bad it's impossible.
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