That's true. I just remembered a funny Futurama Quote.Originally Posted by Anaisa
Zap Brannigan (preparing troops for battle): Some of you are white, some of you are black. You're brown. And you're silver!
That's true. I just remembered a funny Futurama Quote.
Zap Brannigan (preparing troops for battle): Some of you are white, some of you are black. You're brown. And you're silver!
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
The Pupu race is severely under-represented.
Final Fantasy games generally are filled with Caucasians, about 3 asian looking characters, and 1 character of color, I mean look at their anime, they all look anglo saxon. I have never seen an asian that looks like Tidus in my life, he looks like Meg Ryan and she's white. I think FF8 has the record with 2 black characters, Kiros and Raijin. I'd rather them not do other minorities anyway, they usually just stereotype, like Barret, I think thats how Japanese view black people, big, mean, and simple minded. All he does is throw out swear words and threaten to beat people up. I remember a moment in the game when your on the airship and he says YEAHHHH BOYYYY, like it was 1992 and everyone is still listening to Flava Flav and Public Enemy, if thats not blatantly stereotyping I dont know what is, or how about Wakka, I think he is supposed to be Caribbean or something and he just throws out words like ya mon, and wuz up brotha. Any moment Im waitin for him to bust out singing "Dont Worry be happy". You cant fault the Japanese animators though, the only Black or Mexican people they experience are the ones that come into town off a american naval base.
So does Cid.
Other than Barret there are black people in the Wall Market gym.
its the same with alot of games practically every game i can think of stereotypes black people and other ethnic minorities its life we cant change it so we deal with it
I seriously think before FFVII, which was the first game to obviously have a person of color, it was because of graphic limits. Someone mentioned FF1 but if you get into the actual data of the game, each character is limited to 3 colors, and for some characters, white just wouldn't fit into the scheme, and black inferred a blank space you could see through, plus the entire background in fights was black, so the guy would be invisible. So honestly, I believe part of it is graphic restriction, and the other part is, they never really thought about it. I mean they create whole new species, so I don't really think they were racist.
It's like the whole acceptance thing, you don't have to approve of something to accept it, to bring my own personal opinion in. I'm not a fan of homosexuality, I believe it goes against one of our main purposes in life, but if they keep it behind closed doors and don't rub it in my face all the time, which they tend to do nowadays, I accept it, and just avoid it. Acceptance does not mean approving. Disclusion does not mean racism. If you asked Square-Enix, they'd probably be like, oh, that never really crossed our mind...
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Arabs and Indians get to be called "brown". Don't listen to Talib Kweli.
I agree with the fact that racial homogeniety doesn't imply racism. I also liked the diversity of FFVII's cast and I wish there would be more of it. However, not all countries have the luxury of having such a diverse culture as America or Britain, so it is understandable to see games with characters of limited diversity.
Also, these games are meant to be in a fantasy setting. People may look all white or Asian, but those concepts have no meaning in a fantasy world. Square has chosen from FFIX and onward to parallel our racial conflicts with species conflicts. We had Genomes, Burmecians, Cleyrans, Dwarves, Black Mages, Qus, and more in FFIX. We had Al Bhed and Ronso in FFX (and the parallels of African-American discrimination to Al Bhed discrimination were pretty obvious). It is superficial and foolish to call these games racist because they don't carry our conventional races. It's "Fantasy" for a reason.
Their not racist, they just stereotype to a degree.
Japanese people haev ALWAYS been that way, they always cater everything to caucasians, sad if you ask me.
-we need more latinos, blacks, asians, even some kick ass arab people
Rpgs with diversity: Shin Megami Tensei series, Shining Tears, The Legend of Dragoon, and Final Fantasy X to a degree
This is going to sound totally racist, but I'm gonna step out on a limb here. Disclaimer note, I am not racist, so bear with me.
I'm sure people have heard ignorant racial remarks like "They all look the same to me". And as bad as that is, it's slightly true to a degree. Asians hair colors are for the most part, all black. Eye colors don't vary much. Skin types usually only vary in tone/shade/darkness/lightness. Same issue with black people. And call me an ignorant fool if I'm wrong, but as far as I know it's a lot the same with middle eastern cultures. Whereas with caucasians you have not only different skin tones, but different skin types. I've never seen an asian with freckles (but I won't discount the possibility). Nor have I seen a black person with blue eyes. Or an arab with red hair. Caucasians are just the most visually distinct race. And as I pointed out about cut-scenes in ten. I believe what Square tried to do (and I'll attest the same thing is going on in animes and everything else) was make Asians just as diverse. Those aren't meant to be caucasians. They're meant to be diverse asians. A japanese person with naturally pink hair. Blue eyes. Cat ears. Sometimes they make the setting America, but that's pretty rare on the whole. Its usually set in tokyo, or some fantasy place. And they're usually characters that are born there. So you know what their pedigree is meant to be.
Vyk makes the strongest point.
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
I thought Kiros was Black or of some other decent that wasn't White. He didn't act like a sterotypical Black person. I think that most of their characters look Asian, because that's what they're used to seeing. Then again...I looked at the 12 trailer and realized all the main characters are blond and look White. :whaaa: What world are they living in?
I'm pretty sure Asian, Black and Latino people have different skin types too. Although it's rare for them to have eye colors other than Brown or Hazel. However, I have seen alot of Blacks with grey eyes (naturally). Maybe it's just where I live.
Last edited by Shiny; 02-01-2006 at 10:47 PM.
I have seen very light skinned black people, Ive seen black people with red hair. And if you go by region white people look alot alike as well, British Isle people are generally stereotyped to having pasty pale skin with red or Germans are stereotyped to having blonde hair and blue eyes. Italians are stereotyped to be short with black hair and brown eyes.I thought Kiros was Black or of some other decent that wasn't White. He didn't act like a sterotypical Black person. I think that most of their characters look Asian, because that's what they're used to seeing. Then again...I looked at the 12 trailer and realized all the main characters are blond and look White. :whaaa: What world are they living in?
I'm pretty sure Asian, Black and Latino people have different skin types too. Although it's rare for them to have eye colors other than Brown or Hazel. However, I have seen alot of Blacks with grey eyes (naturally). Maybe it's just where I live.
Many of my black friends say that all white people look the same to them. An African from South Africa has many physical attributes that differ from a Northern African. You probably wouldnt notice the difference but they do, as an Asian person notices the differences between a Korean or Japanese person, I dont but they do, call a Chinese person Japanese they get pissed.
Its kind of different in America where their are hardly any pure races.
Ivalice. Duh.
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
Oh no, I wasn't talking about where the characters were from. It was a retorical question about where the makers of FF12 were from. Seeing as how they made those characters look the same.
Actually, alot of Germans I've seen have dark hair. I guess it depends on the area you're in.
First off... these Black friends you know...they are evil. Anyone who says that certain races all look the same is either blind, or purposely being rude. Not all White people look the same; that's absurd! It all depends on genetics. Although you know if a person is lighter skinned odds are they probably have some American or European decent. And alot of people can't tell their own race from other races. It's extremely difficult to try to find differences within races. So I guess to me Asian people look Asian. Black people look Black. Latinos look Latin, and White people looks White. I leave it at that.Many of my black friends say that all white people look the same to them. An African from South Africa has many physical attributes that differ from a Northern African. You probably wouldnt notice the difference but they do, as an Asian person notices the differences between a Korean or Japanese person, I dont but they do, call a Chinese person Japanese they get pissed.
True.:bgl:Its kind of different in America where their are hardly any pure races.
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