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    The riddle:
    "Lo and behold",
    Ol' Laguna says to Ellone.

    "If I were you,
    I'd give in for my age
    in a previous world,
    without Elle."


    Wrong guesses:
    Raine
    Squall
    Edea
    Dr. Odine
    Time compression
    Laguna card
    Laguna's love for Ellone
    The space station
    Outer heaven
    Junction machine Ellone
    The player
    Youth
    Laguna deciding not to go looking for Ellone
    Ultimecia's castle
    Timber
    White SeeD ship
    "Loire"
    The opening movie sequence
    Iguion
    Ellone's birth
    Laguna's first sight of Ellone
    Laguna's last sight of Ellone
    A gun
    Lol (lol)


    Hints:
    The answer is not a person.
    A part of the riddle (not the answer) is a teeny bit related to time, but not in an obvious way.
    The first part is a clue to find the answer, but you have to figure the first part out by figuring the second part out, which is referring to the first part.
    Look for connections in the riddle.
    The answer is not an obtainable item.
    Question the riddle.
    Think about every separate word, even some common words. Most of them are chosen for a reason.
    Wikipedia, dictionary.com etc. wont help you much (if any) with this one riddle.
    Do not try to find the answer in the riddle, in fact, forget about looking for the answer and try to figure out what's up with the riddle.
    Word play
    The second part is directed at the riddle solver.
    The answer is not abstract (events, feelings etc.).
    The two first lines are the last key to find the answer but for that to happen you must figure out the "secret" of the second part. It will lead you to the first part which, with the key found in the second part, gives you a good clue on how to find out the answer.
    The second part is instructions for the first part.
    The lines "in a previous world without Elle" have been figured out to mean simply "in a previous word" which refers to a specific word in one of the first two lines.
    "If I were you" does not mean "If 'I' was 'U'".
    "Age" relates to the fact that in the second line Laguna is "Ol'".
    The first line, "Lo and behold" is very significant.
    "Give in" does not mean the same as "give up" in this case.
    "Lo and behold" is the strongest link to the answer and hence something you'll have to figure out later on.
    "Give in for my age" is more word play.
    The riddle contains no anagrams.
    Question: When you give in for your age do you replace a word with the word in? - Answer: Almost, but not really.
    Note the implication of Laguna's old age.
    "Lo and behold" does not relate to the phrase "Low and be old".
    There is something in the last two lines (especially the last) that you might not have thought of.
    Laguna says the first line to Ellone when she's there. That fact is important to the riddle.


    Quote Originally Posted by HolyMackeral
    I guess we could remove the "If i were you" line as its not really telling us a whole lot except that we should do what comes in the next two lines. Therefore the answer lies here.

    I'd give in for my age
    in a previous word
    Indeed it does, or rather the clue to the clue to the answer.
    Does age relate to the fact that in the second line Laguna is "Ol'"?
    Haha, this is almost going too fast. Yes, correct.
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    "Lo and behold",
    Ol' Laguna says to Ellone.

    "If I were the riddle solver,
    I would give in for my(lagunas) age
    in a previous word,



    i think we just keep confusing ourselves more and more and are making this riddle harder then it really is, but i still can't understand the "i would give in for my age "line, it just doesn't make any sense at all to me... grr i effing love riddles, and this one is a challenge, but it is REALLY pissing me off lol:P
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyMackeral
    You didnt answer my question so Ill ask something else. How significant is the first line, "Lo and behold"?
    I posted before I saw you edited in your question. So I edited in my answer

    And to this question: Very.

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    if u give us a hint as to the meaning of the line GIVE IN FOR MY AGE, would it be almost too easy from then on in..cause if not... PLZ DO
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    Then I deleted my post when I saw you edit yours. Vicious cycle.

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    is it when ellone is born?

    lol scrap that idea..too random
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyMackeral
    Then I deleted my post when I saw you edit yours. Vicious cycle.
    Lol yeah, but I managed to answer both your questions *proud*.

    White shadow, I think you already figured this, but "give in" does not mean the same as "give up" here. What else could it mean?

    It's not Ellone's birth

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    Lo and behold according to a dictionary of idioms means look, or what a surprise, but doesnt really help much.

    So Rantzien is 'give in for my age' more wordplay? And this previous word, is it referring to a specific word in the riddle?

    edit: just me or does it feel like a 2 horse race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyMackeral
    Lo and behold according to a dictionary of idioms means look, or what a surprise, but doesnt really help much.

    So Rantzien is 'give in for my age' more wordplay? And this previous word, is it referring to a specific word in the riddle?

    edit: just me or does it feel like a 2 horse race?
    lol i do believe it is... and it will be one tough race lemme tell you htat...BUT I HAVE TO EAT NOW! i might miss it.....


    RANTZIEN do you say not ellones birth as if im on the right track with an event with ellone but its just not her birth....cause if not i would also say it could be the first time laguna ever set eyes on her...first time he met ellone...but ill be gone for the next 15 20 mins... so win by too much holy mackeral
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    "Lo and behold" is the strongest link to the answer and hence something you'll have to figure out later on (soon if you keep up this speed).

    "give in for my age" is more word play, yes. The previous word is referring to one specific of the riddle's words, yes.

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    Im gonna take a stab that the specific previous word is in the first two lines, which probably makes it either Ol' or Ellone, maybe Laguna. Man this is hard, where do you come up with this stuff Rant?

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    yay i made itback in time... now then where were we...a hell im reposting itagain
    "Lo and behold",
    Ol' Laguna says to Ellone.

    "If I were you,
    I'd give in for my age
    in a previous world,
    without Elle."
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    wait a damn minute here... RANT PLZ TELL ME THERE ARE NO ACRONYMS**! I FAILED THAT PART OF ENGLISH CLASS!
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    Yes, the 'previous word' is in the first two lines.
    Writing on paper actually helps the creativity to flow when creating riddles. My current FFIX riddle was written in a minute on a piece of paper. This one took some more time though.

    No anagrams! Yay!

    Btw I'm going to bed... It's 2:22am here.
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    when you give in for your age do you replace a word with the word in?
    Im running out of ideas here.

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