Quote Originally Posted by yuno
but then,where should we get the general concept of a good or bad book/movie other than statistics?as said,people do have different opinions,but the general opinion would have to say something about how good that book/movie is.and i didnt say that it is a definite goodness and that surely everyone will find it good.not everyone may like that book/movie,but the statistical facts would still speak out and say that "this book/movie is generally hailed as good," so in the general concept of what is "good",the book/movie is actually "good".

also,i havent heard of a best-seller/box-office hit that has a negative GENERAL opinion.would you please cite some examples?please and thank you.

Now you're just backpedaling. Your original standpoint was the defense that if something is successful, as in a book or movie, it is definitely good or bad. Since this has been disproven by me, you are now changing your story to say that statistics give a general impression of the subject based on the majority opinion.

Also, I have already cited numerous examples of best-sellers and box office hits that have GENERAL NEGATIVE perceptions. Da Vinci Code has a general negative perception. Wild Wild West was a huge hit and has a GENERAL NEGATIVE PERCEPTION. MEN IN BLACK II had a big box-office record and has a GENERAL NEGATIVE PERCEPTION. WOuld you like me to keep going? Or maybe you can do some research for yourself and find out that there are hundreds of movies and books in this category; "please, and thank you."

People don't know if something is good or bad in their eyes until they see it. I don't go and see popular movies because they are GOOD, but because they are POPULAR, and THEN I decide for myself whether they are good or bad. A film's statistics and ratings tell you that what the majority of people thought about that film. It does not mean there is a DEFINITE GOODNESS about a film or book if the majority approve of it, as was your original notion which you are now attempting to hide.

Have a nice day.