FFX-2 vs. Classic FFs

[Dark Rikku]

My friends FFX-2 was really bad cause the outfits(or lack of em'),the really stupid characters,ect. But they do like the classics though I really don't see why.:twak:

[Tavrobel]

Generally, (note the keyword GENERALLY), those who have played the old FFs have no love for the newer FFs, especially FFX-2, which was the epitome of everything FF did not stand for.

That pretty much answers the question. Old school pros will claim that FFX-2 sucks, compared to all the others. New school fanboys/girls will claim that the old school games burn their eyes, or they ask "why do we have to play it? New school games are as good as the old/better than them!". Only in YOUR desperate opinion. Your opinion is more valid than anyone else's. It is after all, an OPINION, not a FACT.

As far as anything goes, it is pure opinion whether someone thinks a game is better than another. And no one listens to gaming review sites, so don't try to use reviews found there as "evidence" that a FF is better than another. Evidence used, can only support one's decision to hate or enjoy a game, not to prove that it is BY FACT, e.g., that many games are indeed better than FFX-2.

I'll link you a link to one such thread, found here, that goes into detail, one person's humble opinion and fully fleshed support statements, totalling six pages, as to why FFX-2 sucked, in his humble opinion. But only you can make such a judgment for yourself.

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=80937

[SeeDRankLou]

Some people don't like change. FFX-2 was definately change. I liked it, and I stand by my statement that it is a good FF, but some people do not. Everyone will have an opinion.

[Darth Cid]

Some people don't like change. FFX-2 was definately change. I liked it, and I stand by my statement that it is a good FF, but some people do not. Everyone will have an opinion.

Zidane: No, some people don't like games that don't deserve a sequel. FFX-2 was like pretty much all of Square's projects lately, they can't figure anything else out to do original so let's make sequels and destroy the thousands of fan fictions of how everyone else wanted Tidus & Yuna to reunite, so long as we can milk the series.. And while they were at it, they make a change in attire to Yuna & Rikku that only encourages the disgusting perverts who make fan factional Hentai. GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]!

[Rengori]

FFX-2 was just an easy way for square to make quick cash which was needed at the time.

The older FF's had a lot of things that X-2 didn't: More than three characters; good characters; characters that didn't go from either A) Sad to Cheery B) Cheery to crack addicted OR C) Male to Female (Paine was such an Auron ripoff); A decent story; and most importantly new worlds.

[Wuggly Blight]

Just because some people dont like FFX-2 doesnt make them old school change haters, belive it or not, some people actually hate it for being a bad game, not the change. Some people hate the story, or lack of, side quests, characters and development, game play, world development, soundtrack, etc.

[DMKA]

FFX-2 sold over four million copies, and boosted the sales since it's release of it and FFX combined to over ten million copies, so it must of done something right.

SRL pretty much said it though. It's nothing more and nothing less than difference in opinions, which everyone will have.

[Wuggly Blight]

Figure 1:Japan
Figure 2: America
Figure 3: Others
Figure 4: Total
Super Mario Bros NES Nintendo
6.81
29.52
3.91
40.24
Pokemon Red / Blue / Green GB Nintendo
10.23
11.44
9.70
31.37
Tetris GB Nintendo
4.24
23.55
2.47
30.26
Duck Hunt NES Nintendo
0.28
27.34
0.69
28.31
Pokemon Gold / Silver GB Nintendo
7.21
9.14
6.75
23.10
Super Mario World SNES Nintendo
3.55
12.97
4.09
20.61
Super Mario Land GB Nintendo
4.19
10.99
2.96
18.14
Super Mario Bros 3 NES Nintendo
3.84
9.69
3.75
17.28
Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire GBA Nintendo
5.29
5.36
4.09
14.74
Pokemon Yellow GB Nintendo
3.16
5.98
5.50
14.64
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec PS2 Sony
1.89
6.88
5.59
14.36
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City PS2 Take 2
0.47
7.76
5.35
13.58
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas PS2 Take 2
0.00
7.39
6.08
13.47
Super Mario 64 N64 Nintendo
1.92
6.87
3.10
11.89
Grand Theft Auto 3 PS2 Take 2
0.36
6.45
4.58
11.39
Super Mario Land 2 GB Nintendo
2.70
6.25
2.23
11.18
Gran Turismo PS Sony
2.55
3.99
4.30
10.84
Super Mario Allstars SNES Nintendo
2.12
6.08
2.35
10.55
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo
2.24
5.52
2.11
9.87
Final Fantasy VII PS Square
3.93
3.09
2.70
9.72
Gran Turismo 2 PS Sony
1.71
3.96
3.67
9.34
Donkey Kong Country SNES Nintendo
3.00
4.43
1.87
9.30
Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green GBA Nintendo
2.91
3.54
2.59
9.04
Super Mario Kart SNES Nintendo
3.82
3.59
1.35
8.76
GoldenEye 007 N64 Nintendo
0.13
5.77
2.19
8.09
Final Fantasy VIII PS Square
3.64
2.34
1.88
7.86
Final Fantasy X PS2 Square
2.96
2.68
2.11
7.75
Crash Bandicoot 2 PS Sony
1.33
3.91
2.37
7.61
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time N64 Nintendo
1.46
4.08
2.06
7.60
Halo 2 XBX Microsoft
0.11
5.72
1.65
7.48
Super Mario Bros 2 USA NES Nintendo
0.00
5.97
1.49
7.46
Crash Bandicoot 3 PS Sony
1.45
3.77
1.91
7.13
Tekken 3 PS Namco
1.40
3.09
2.42
6.91
Crash Bandicoot PS Sony
0.90
3.32
2.57
6.79
The Legend Of Zelda NES Nintendo
1.69
3.80
1.02
6.51
Need for Speed: Underground PS2 EA
0.08
2.97
3.42
6.47
Pokemon Crystal GB Nintendo
2.10
2.59
1.70
6.39
Street Fighter 2 SNES Capcom
2.88
2.51
0.91
6.30
Halo XBX Microsoft
0.10
4.88
1.31
6.29
Gran Turismo 4 PS2 Sony
1.09
1.94
3.22
6.25
Driver PS Infogrames
0.02
3.09
3.06
6.17
Smash Bros Melee GC Nintendo
1.39
3.60
1.06
6.05
Mario Kart: Double Dash GC Nintendo
0.87
3.36
1.78
6.01
Medal Of Honour Frontline PS2 EA
0.17
2.73
2.97
5.87
Resident Evil 2 PS Capcom
2.28
1.93
1.61
5.82
Metal Gear Solid 2 PS2 Konami
0.85
2.32
2.42
5.59
Tetris NES Nintendo
1.81
3.02
0.75
5.58
Super Mario Sunshine GC Nintendo
0.85
3.42
1.29
5.56
Super Smash Bros N64 Nintendo
1.97
2.93
0.65
5.55
Metal Gear Solid PS Konami
0.70
2.81
2.00
5.51
Need for Speed: Underground 2 PS2 EA
0.08
2.20
3.19
5.47
Pokemon Stadium N64 Nintendo
0.95
3.16
1.35
5.46
Tekken 2 PS Namco
1.37
2.02
2.06
5.45
Nintendogs DS Nintendo
1.20
2.03
2.19
5.42
Pokemon Emerald GBA Nintendo
1.80
1.97
1.58
5.35
Dr Mario GB Nintendo
2.08
2.21
1.05
5.34
Pokemon Pinball GB Nintendo
1.02
3.07
1.22
5.31
Final Fantasy IX PS Square
2.80
1.66
0.84
5.30
Donkey Kong 64 N64 Nintendo
1.10
3.31
0.86
5.27
Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land GB Nintendo
1.59
2.53
1.07
5.19
Donkey Kong Country 2 SNES Nintendo
2.21
2.10
0.84
5.15
Kirbys Dream Land GB Nintendo
1.71
2.75
0.67
5.13
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo
0.93
2.41
1.76
5.10
Super Mario Bros DX GB Nintendo
0.20
3.45
1.42
5.07
Resident Evil PS Capcom
1.68
2.10
1.27
5.05
Final Fantasy X-2 PS2 Square
2.37
1.71
0.96
5.04

Just a list of sales figures.

[Darth Cid]

Zidane: I don't understand how a list of sales figures has anything to do with it.

[lotink0]

to put simply all the ff games i have played are great. the only ones i haven't are 6, and 9 but i will get to them. old may have some things new dosen't but new has things old dosen't if you don't like it LIVe with it or stop playing them. and a list of sales figures means nothing

[Darth Cid]

to put simply all the ff games i have played are great. the only ones i haven't are 6, and 9 but i will get to them. old may have some things new dosen't but new has things old dosen't if you don't like it LIVe with it or stop playing them. and a list of sales figures means nothing

Zidane: QFFT!!!

[Wuggly Blight]

Zidane: I don't understand how a list of sales figures has anything to do with it.

Putting them in for factual refrence before the "FFX sold a zillion copies!" thing pops up. I would think sales figures of the final fantasy games would have alot todo with the vs thing, seeing how 7 is offically the best selling RPG of all time, ff8 outsold 10, and 9 was between X and X-2 with both 11 and 6 and prior under X-2. Trends shows How the series last peeked at 7 and sales figures has FALLEN with each game after 7 with a return in X's figures that still didnt beat its two predisesors VII and VIII.

[Darth Cid]

Zidane: To me, that just implys some people are not willing to give other FFs a chance meaning they're fan boys and fan girls.

[Wuggly Blight]

Yes, lets all rush out right now to by a game we dont like! People dont by games they dont like, get over it. It in no way means there fanboys/girls.

[Sefie1999AD]

I'm pretty much mix-school, as in, I started with FFVII and then went to old-school FFs. I prefer the medieval fantasy world setting and character classes myself, but that doesn't stop me from liking FFs. Even so, I don't think Final Fantasy X-2 was a disgrace to the series. After FFX, which was a disappointment for me, I was pleased with FFX-2 and how it fixed everything I disliked about FFX. For example, pretty much the only characters I liked from FFX were Rikku and Auron. Every other character annoyed the thing out of me (*cough* Tidus) or just lacked character development, IMHO. In addition, I found voice acting to be sub-par as well, especially for Hedy Buress.

In FFX-2, every character was likable, even (SPOILER)Tidus since he didn't have much time in the game, so he didn't speak much. I especially liked (SPOILER)Shuyin as the villain. Rikku was still a fun character though I actually preferred her in FFX. The voice acting was a lot better in FFX-2 than in FFX, in my opinion, especially for Hedy Buress. I was worried that she'd mess up big-time since she was the lead character in this game. FFX-2 also brought back the ATB system with its fast-paced battles, and I liked the class system, which we hadn't seen since FFV. The final battle was also an improvement since I really disliked FFX's final battle in several ways. Finally, thank goodness there were no compulsory Cloisters of Trials in FFX-2!

Finally, while FFX-2 did have several changes, it still kept those things which I liked about FFX. There's all the familiar locations and the familiar setting of the world, and I like exploring and revisiting all those places from FFX again and see how they've changed, and while the main story may not be too developed, I love all the substories involved in all those locations, and all that character development the side characters (Wakka and Lulu, Ronsos, Guados, Dona and Barthello, Tobli - yes, I actually liked Tobli's character - and others) are having.