Umm... wait... most homosexual movies rarely get much hype... (In blockbuster, look in romance section.... I've never heard of many of theM)
Umm... wait... most homosexual movies rarely get much hype... (In blockbuster, look in romance section.... I've never heard of many of theM)
Brokeback Mountain is the ONLY homosexual movie I can think of that has received any hype.
My friends have introduced me to a lot of films like Party Monster and But I'm a Cheerleader, and I'd never heard of them before. I go for more obscure films, so that made it even more unusual for me.
So no, I've never seen any single homosexual film given that much coverage, save for Brokeback.
Uh! I loved "But...I'm a Cheerleader!", such a smurfing tongue-in-cheek-type movie!
I think we're kind of deviating away from the subject here.
What other homosexual movie has recieved the kind of attention Brokeback Mountain has?Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
Also, unlike Mel Gibson and the Passion of the Christ, Ang Lee and the Brokeback Mountain crew never rose to the bait that the media set for them. They never made challenges to the people who were against this movie, they never responded when people tried to ignite a controversy, they just quitely went about their business and did what they could to promote their movie without stooping to cheap tricks and media blitzes.
They did a fantastic job with the movie, and reward after reward is being handed to them, but they didn't ask for the kind of attention that they're getting. And I think they're handling it very well.
The Media might be churning up whatever they can about Brokeback, but that's just what they do. They latch onto something they feel is gonna "make it big" and then they don't let go until everyone is sick of it.
No one's shoving anything in your face. You're not forced to watch your TV or listen to your radio. And by your logic, any movie regarding heterosexuality is then also SHOVED into the faces of everyone who sees and hears about it.
Sounds like you're just mad and prejudiced against homosexuality due to previous misconceptions of right and wrong. THis is the United States of America, and freedom supercedes any kind of pressure from religion or personal moral beliefs which are used as a weapon to control the lives of others.
Oh, and Brokeback Mountain is a great movie! I hope it wins all the oscars it has been nominated for and they make millions more movies with a homosexual topic
it has nothing to do with right and wrong, and if people choose to be that way, or whatever, let them. I don't support it. And I get sick of hearing that just because you don't support it, you hate it, and you have to accept it and all that crap. I also have freedom, freedom to disagree with it. SO let me, I don't have to agree with it.No one's shoving anything in your face. You're not forced to watch your TV or listen to your radio. And by your logic, any movie regarding heterosexuality is then also SHOVED into the faces of everyone who sees and hears about it.
Sounds like you're just mad and prejudiced against homosexuality due to previous misconceptions of right and wrong. THis is the United States of America, and freedom supercedes any kind of pressure from religion or personal moral beliefs which are used as a weapon to control the lives of others.
Oh, and Brokeback Mountain is a great movie! I hope it wins all the oscars it has been nominated for and they make millions more movies with a homosexual topic
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it has nothing to do with right and wrong, and if people choose to be that way, or whatever, let them. I don't support it. And I get sick of hearing that just because you don't support it, you hate it, and you have to accept it and all that crap. I also have freedom, freedom to disagree with it. SO let me, I don't have to agree with it.No one's shoving anything in your face. You're not forced to watch your TV or listen to your radio. And by your logic, any movie regarding heterosexuality is then also SHOVED into the faces of everyone who sees and hears about it.
Sounds like you're just mad and prejudiced against homosexuality due to previous misconceptions of right and wrong. THis is the United States of America, and freedom supercedes any kind of pressure from religion or personal moral beliefs which are used as a weapon to control the lives of others.
Oh, and Brokeback Mountain is a great movie! I hope it wins all the oscars it has been nominated for and they make millions more movies with a homosexual topic
and also with reference to the right and wrong, considering it's an FF forum, I'll put this
"Right and wrong are not what seperate us from our enemies(in this case, eachother). It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that seperate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views. " SQUALL
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Ok then....
You can disagree with it all you want, no one is STOPPING you. People also disagreed with granting basic HUMAN RIGHTS to African Americans; maybe we should have let those people keep on disagreeing with the notion of civil liberties and brought back slavery, huh? Maybe their "standpoints" were their own right and they should have been allowed to degrade, torture, and murder African Americans because they had "different standpoints," and we should have "LET" them keep on doing these things, huh? That would have been nice, don't you think?
Maybe it was all right that some people "DISAGREED" with a certain quality of other individuals and thought it was ok to kill them, to destroy their homes, to rape their wives all because they had "different standpoints."
Or maybe we should have never granted women voting rights because some people diagreed with it because their sick minds were intent on controlling the lives of others...that would have been nice too, huh? Perhaps we should make separate reservations for homosexuals and lockup anyone who mentions the subject in public, huh?
So yeah, you can disagree all you want. But your arguments seem baseless. No one is shoving anything. No one is forcing anything on you. Freedom is here to stay, and there IS a generally accepted notion of right and wrong in this society. Just like slavery and civil liberties, more and more people are understanding that arguments against homosexuality are illogical, unconstitutional, and downright hateful.
By the way, that was a nice quote from Squall, but even I, who prize Final Fantasy 8 above almost anything else, know when to draw the line between our reality and a video games reality.
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Oops, I totally didn't see that post.My bad...I just get hyped up when people make arguments against something and they are so...ah forget it...what's the point?
I pretty much agree with leechy
ljkkjlcm9, have you seen "Brokeback Mountain"? (That was a rhetorical question, by the way; I find it likelier that you're Elvis Presley reincarnate.) I dare you to go and see it. Then you can come back and give us your (more) enlightened opinion. Until then, you have no right to judge it.
Some statistics on the movie, from Box Office Mojo http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...ckmountain.htm:
Domestic Total as of Feb. 10, 2006: $63,586,000
Overseas: $31,000,000
Worldwide: $94,586,000
Widest Release: 2,089 theaters
Hardly a "failure", in any sense of the word. In fact, I would call BBM a resounding success - both commercially and critically.
Oh, and BBM was made as a straight movie; it was called "Titanic". Quite successful. You might have heard of it...? Hey! Even the posters are similar! (Check out attachments)
P.S. I'd just like to get in a free plug for BBM: go and see it guys! Not only will you appear less ignorant in threads like this one, but is it a beautiful and heartwrenching movie (prepare for pain), and it, you know, won't "turn you gay" or anything! (Not that it's possible to "turn someone gay", anyway.)
Last edited by scooby; 02-12-2006 at 12:05 PM.
My god people. You're blowing what I say way out or proportion. I'm not saying we should like, enslave homosexuals. Or that they deserve no rights or anything. NOTHING like that. I'm just saying that if they want to be treated equally, then don't make such a big deal out of this movie. IN FACT, I feel they deserve all the same rights as anyone else. Marriage is a touchy subject cause of religion, I'm not religious, so I don't care if they get married, but those who are religious, may have a problem with it. I disagree with their lifestyle, I don't disagree with their life, or their existence.
It's a movie, and it did well, mainly because of the homosexual relationship. AND, if they made a homosexual relationship in a game, most of the success would come from people interested in how that relationship is played out in the game. And don't try the "have you seen it" thing. I did not see the entire movie, but I have seen enough of it. It's fine as movies go, not exactly my favorite, and not because of the relationship. I just don't enjoy that type of movie, I also didn't enjoy titanic, if you want to make that connection. I still think the actors did really well.
Let me ask you, Have you listened to Rush Limbaugh? THAT isn't rhetorical, though I doubt you have.
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Homosexuality will never truly be accepted... what's the point?
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