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    We tried holding a drive for the people who were hit by the hurricanes back in august and didn't get a single thing.

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    I dunno what they were, some kinda cards. Whatever. My point still stands.

    There is a lot of credit to Dr Unne's words that selling something induces pressure on the person you are selling to. You no longer are asking for donations, but you are now selling something. You can call it whatever you like, but "giving extra PM space for a donation" is no different from "selling PM space for a price". In the end, it doesn't fool the target, and the target is forced to view his/her relationship to you as a buyer/seller relationship, not a goodwill relationship. I guess you could call it psychological; if I understand your use of the word correctly, you mean it as something subconscious or not in the realm of conscious logic. Sure.

    edit: rubah, there were a ton of organizations doing online drives during that time. People in general will want to go to the ones that are more established in better hopes of seeing their money put to good use. That's what I did, anyways.

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    Neel, our target was high school students. They don't want to put any more effort out than they have to. I doubt they donated anywhere else.

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    So far these are the reasons I've found to be valid.

    1) I don't like PMs and would rather have exactly or less than the current limit. Having more PM space is something that given a choice, even if it were free, I would choose against. PM space is yuck!

    2) I want to choose a different amount.

    3) I don't want to use PayPal.

    Anything else as far as I can tell is purely psychological. I mean, basically all we're doing is giving people the option of, should they donate $12 or $20, whether they would like to have extra PM space or not. Don't want it? Alright. I mean, if this was a completely seperate option I think people would jump at the opportunity.

    If I am giving to a cause, I give to that cause because I want to give to that cause. If I happen to have the option of gaining something for myself at no extra cost out of such an action that isn't something that I would find annoying (eg. a brochure, that's just junk to me), then I would take that option. It doesn't hurt anyone whatsoever and it benefits me. Hell, I'm game for that whenever it happens.
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    Oh BoB.

    Psychological reasons are extremely valid. They drive a lot of people in this world to do what they do. Why do you think people in marketing are required to take psychology classes?

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    Yeah, I know. But people should start saying "Psychological reasons" instead of trying to pretty it all up with fancy words.
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    I haven't donated yet, nor do I plan to, as I don't have PayPal, and wouldn't really use the extra PMs anyway. But that's beside the point.

    I don't think that people's hesitancy to donate has anything to do with getting something in return. It's not something subconscious either. It's simply that people feel that a donation to a registered charity helping victims of natural disasters/famine is more worthwhile than a donation to an internet site, even if it's a site as fantastic as EoFF. Reward or no reward, a contribution to Oxfam feels worthwhile, and a contribution to EoFF less so. Whether the recepient is 'selling' something or not isn't a factor.
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    Oh, I don't mean that, BM121. I understand that entirely. I'm talking about the people who would happily donate but would not purchase PM space knowing the money was going to the same place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB
    Oh, I don't mean that, BM121. I understand that entirely. I'm talking about the people who would happily donate but would not purchase PM space knowing the money was going to the same place.
    Ah.

    ...

    Yeah, those people suck.
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    I don't like fan art. :D?

    Or PayPal. I've read "stories", you know!

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    Psychology drives just about everything, really.

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    I don't like paypal at all

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    I've never donated for something in return. The charities I've donated to didn't give bracelets, and the time I donated to EoFF I didn't get anything.

    Maybe I'm not the only one who thinks paying for a fan art gallery is stupid.

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    It's feature-rich. Something you can't always find in free software. I mean Cid pays for the forum software, and we could just as easily be using phpbb.

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