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    For my bioethics project, I need to interview people to see how they feel on a certain biology issue, such as abortion, cloning, etc. I’m doing Cryogenics, the act of freezing legally dead people in hopes that the cryonists in the future can restore them to life, youth, and health. Post how you feel about Cryogenics, whether you support or oppose this issue.
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    I wanna be frozen!!
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    I'd oppose this issue. If they're dead, the cryonists of the future would have to be gods, magicians or complete wackos to be able to restore them to life. Someone would have needed to discover the Fountain of Youth. Every single under-developed country would need to have good healthcare so that their poor dead people aren't lacking in health when they're revived.

    In the meantime, many of the frozen dead would melt thanks to global warming and the ineffectiveness of all the Kyoto Protocols in the world. If that ever happened, it'd just be kinda...nasty. Let's not forget that huge expenses will be incurred, for something that will never probably happen in the proprietor's lifetime. I don't think it's worth it.
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    This is something Donald Trump will do. We'll never be rid of his awful haircut.


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    I oppose the issue. I think it's impossible to do. I agree with everything Resha said.

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    I think it should be done. Not because it is possible, but because it will enrich our knoledge of the field.
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    I think it should be done. Not because it is possible, but because it would be an awesome idea for reality TV.


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    It depends on how the glyco receptor proteins are enabled with their allosteric inhibitors before sending enzyme complexes to the golgi apparatus.....or something @_@
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    I heard about a golgi complex...somewhere in the cell or summat.
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    The the frozen people want it, then there is nothing wrong with it.

    This is where my beliefs in unfettered research, and human rights clash. But so long as the humans being experimented upon give consent, there is nothing wrong with it.
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    Do it whatever doesnt effect me. Would I do it.? NO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resha
    I'd oppose this issue. If they're dead, the cryonists of the future would have to be gods, magicians or complete wackos to be able to restore them to life.
    Who says they're actually dead? Just because they're beyond our ability to revive now doesn't mean they'd be beyond our medical capabilities in 100 years or more. It's not playing god, it's science, and if we one day have the ability, then why not? It's not getting into any sketchy ethical territory, it's simply someone wanting the chance to live a little longer. If they've got the money and the technology is there, let them go ahead and try.

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    I just can't help but think....someone who's dead, Year 2006, not just waking up, but RESURRECTED in year....iunno, 4999,,,,,I don't know about you guys, but I'd be disoriented, and I'd be scared as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22
    Who says they're actually dead? Just because they're beyond our ability to revive now doesn't mean they'd be beyond our medical capabilities in 100 years or more. It's not playing god, it's science, and if we one day have the ability, then why not? It's not getting into any sketchy ethical territory, it's simply someone wanting the chance to live a little longer. If they've got the money and the technology is there, let them go ahead and try.
    I want you to promise me there'll be the technology, and the ability, and that the entire human race hasn't disintegrated by then. Say it definitively.

    They'll be dead because the person who started this thread says they'll be dead. I'm just going with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resha
    I want you to promise me there'll be the technology, and the ability, and that the entire human race hasn't disintegrated by then. Say it definitively.

    They'll be dead because the person who started this thread says they'll be dead. I'm just going with that.
    If that has happened, then they won't get revived. Seeing as they're dead for the duration of cryo, I somehow doubt they'll care.

    Where did you get your earlier global warming comment from, by the way...? We don't just jam them into the nearest ice sheet.

    Anyway, I have no problem with this. It's a tricky one, but like almost everything else, it'll probably be solved by nanotechnology. The main problem - more than the things people died of, in many cases - is that cells get severely damaged when frozen. The water in them expands, causing them to rupture. This is very bad mojo, and (To my knowledge) we can't repair such damage at this time.

    Disorientation is a factor, but I'd wager that when people get brought back that they do get some education in their new time zone. I'd do it, not so much to extend my life as to see the future.

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