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    There were two other members agreeing with me here.
    As I said,this is a subjective question.
    In the same way as some people like beans and others donīt some people recognize Zell and others not.
    On subjective matters where people canīt had concrete proof it didnīt matter the opinion of the majority.
    The very beggining of this thread is a good example.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    FE, you see you are wrong. You see this in the cutscene and think, "Hey, that looks like Zell a little. I wonder how that could be? I'll make a theory that could possibly explain this." Sounds like what you would say. Zell can't be inside Squall. His mind, his conscious, anything. First off, why would he do it? Also, if Zell was inside Squall possessing him or whatever you call it, then how come we see him moving his own body motioning Squall to come on(the hand gesture in the cutscene). This theory has no basis besides bad screnshots that don't even provide proof as they are very subjectable, even though all of us(or at least most of us) know that that is Squall, nothing else, nothing inside of him.

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    The only way I could imagine Zell possesing Squall is if Zell were a Sorceress. Are you going to tell us now that Zell is a Sorceress?
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    wouldn't he be considered a sorcerer?

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    We see Squall there and Zell inside him.Thatīs why we see two kinds of hair.It couldnīt be an highlight or shining because it would require a smooth transition.
    We don't see Zell in Squall, we see a robot scanning Squall's actual position and future destination, it is a laser scan, so the laser start usually in heads position to locate a person, and this laser is white to make the person have a contrast with the next world, it could have started in the middle of the back, but for some strange reason, it started at head.

    And for the shining, we see smooth transition in ALL the game, in special in FMV


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heero Yuy NWZC
    wouldn't he be considered a sorcerer?
    Possibly. But what do you want more, gender correctness, or Zell in drag?
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    I would like some gender correctness pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heero Yuy NWZC
    I would like some gender correctness pls.
    Oh come on! You know you've dreamed about Zell in Quistis' outfit, whip and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heero Yuy NWZC
    ummm, if someones possessed they can still move. anywho, we have already said multiple times that Zell has already made it to the Ship.
    you misunderstood me, i meant that Zell would be unable to move because his mind would be inside of Squall's body leaving Zell's body unable to move because there is no mind in his body to make him move (basically the same thing u said later on). sorry if my posts are confusing

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    This donīt refute the theory,anyway.


    Anyway,we see Zell inside Squall on that picture.What better proof do you wanna,Noj_R?
    You are the one using circular logic.You think it is crazy and donīt wanna to believe it so you try to fit what you see to what you think instead of the opposite.
    We see Squall there and Zell inside him.Thatīs why we see two kinds of hair.It couldnīt be an highlight or shining because it would require a smooth transition.
    So it didnīt matter the sleeves or any other thing.
    Squall is taller than Zell and the hair subject is what matters.
    This is becoming a subjective subject.
    No u see Zell inside Squall and everyone else sees just Squall so that isnt proof. proof is something undeniable that everyone agrees on and cannot be disproven.

    you say the hair is important but the sleeves are not... that makes no sense. if you are going to say that Zell's hair is shown in some scenes than other parts of his apperance would show up like his sleeves. also his height is hard to determine because Squall is running over uneven terrain so it may seem like he is getting taller and shorter as he goes over different land heights.
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    Hey, that looks like Zell a little.
    Correction-A lot.
    And I am sure that I am right.

    Guys,letīs stop concentrate on the theory.
    Letīs just concentrate in the subject of whether Zell is there or not.

    also his height is hard to determine because Squall is running over uneven terrain so it may seem like he is getting taller and shorter as he goes over different land heights.
    Zell is shorter than Squall.Thatīs easy to see on the game.

    We don't see Zell in Squall, we see a robot scanning Squall's actual position and future destination, it is a laser scan, so the laser start usually in heads position to locate a person, and this laser is white to make the person have a contrast with the next world, it could have started in the middle of the back, but for some strange reason, it started at head.
    Canīt a robot have more than one task at the same time?
    For instance,to scan Squall and his destination and to take a radiography of who is inside Squall?
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    it is easy to tell who is taller or shorter when they are standing right next to each other but when looking at a blurry picture of one of them running away it is hard to judge exactly how tall the induvidual is so saying that it is one or the other based on height wont work
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    I only referred the height thing to show why we see Zellīs hair (White) below Squallīs hair(dark).
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    It is not below, it stays at the same level. There is no hair lower than Squall's since Squall is the only one there. Also, why would they have a robot do a radiography? and if they did, it wouldn't do a radiography on an organic being, only mechanical ones. It scans to see what or if there is something there. It scans to know what the objects/targets are.

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    The only way to porve this theory is to give examples of it happening elsewhere in the story. This cannot be a " one time " experience. What do you have to say, FE?

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    There is no hair lower than Squall's since Squall is the only one there.
    I know what I see.You are using circular logic now.
    There is no smooth transition between the hairs so it canīt be just brightness.

    Also, why would they have a robot do a radiography?
    As I said,letīs just concentrate on the scene and not on the theory.We will be back to the theory later.Partiality is necessary.

    The only way to porve this theory is to give examples of it happening elsewhere in the story. This cannot be a " one time " experience. What do you have to say, FE?
    Odine is researching certain phenomena.But he only need to research it a few times.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Regards,
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