1572,the year of FF8.

[Noj_R]

It´s quite simple to identify them.
Squall-Squall is someone who don´t like to express his feeling too much.
He likes his privacity a lot.
He is a lone wolf and a "Whatever" person who don´t like to carry others burdens.It´s no surprise he stays at the air lock quietly with his back turned to the rest of the world.
Zell-Very energic,he acts before thinking.
A good example is when he tries to attack the robot on the Pandora without thinking.A very impulsive person.
Seifer-Seifer like to be the center of attention.He would stay at the elevator since people needs to use it to access the bridge.This propagator kinda resembles a product in a stand of a supermarket.

No, I mean, use actual ingame proof that says or equates the propogators to the main cast. Symbolism isnt proof.

[Future Esthar]

It´s not symbolism.It´s behaviour.

Now that I think about this,when we consider my proposed Centra King´s dinasty and my Character/Propagator relations we have:

Green+Grey=Grey.
Grey+Orange=Orange
Orange+red=red
red+green.

Which means Squall can send Rinoa´s consciousness inside Edea,Rinoa can send Squall´s consciousness inside Laguna,Quistis can send Zell´s consciousness inside Squall,Irvine can send Selphie´s consciousness inside Quistis and Selphie can send Irvine´s consciousness inside Seifer even though he is not Irvine´s father but grandgrandfather.But it didn´t matter.What matter is that the color is the same.

[Noj_R]

What matters is that all of this is pure speculation and none of it is proven fact. I suggest you prove one thing before moving on to something else...

[Omnislash07]

Omnislash, guess what? We have said that since like page 1 or 2 of this thread.

i know that but FE often forgets things (like the obvious proof we provide to disclaim his theories) and so i figured i would point it out 1 more time... in fact someone will probably say it again before this thread is eventually closed.

also Nojr is right FE you have yet to prove with specific in game evidence that the propogators are the main characters so if you are using that theory to prove your Zell/Squall theory then your Z/S theory is automatically false

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

Noj_R, didn't that message in that one room in the ragnarok say that the propogators with the same color can communicate with each other? Well, if not, that is my thinking on the matter.

[Future Esthar]

Exactly.If you think to relive needs communication of course.

i know that but FE often forgets things (like the obvious proof we provide to disclaim his theories) and so i figured i would point it out 1 more time... in fact someone will probably say it again before this thread is eventually closed.

No.I just think it is bull.
You are the one who forgot.

No,that is not the case here.
I am using a physical evidence to support my theory.
Although it seems subjective at all I think it is still objective.
It was people themselves who don´t wanna to recognize Zell inside Squall because that seems too crazy and contradicts what they think about the game.
Now,that IS circular logic.
Every open minded person and good observer will be impartial and recognize Zell was saw inside Squall.
I see I need to put a screenshot showing Zell´s back somewhere on the game.
It is not just the blonde hair.We can see lines and shapes on this hair which were from Zell.
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[Heero Yuy NWZC]

How can you say that there were lines and shapes that were from Zell's hair? If you didn't know, they both have smooth hair in the back. The only shape that Zell has on his hair is the headcrest. Lines have nothing to do with it since they represent strands of hair.

[Such Great Heights]

FE, I'm just curious; does this change the plot of the game any? What does it add to the plot? Just trying to see where you're coming from!

[Skyblade]

Future Esthar, on your Propagator theory. Where the frell did you get that cracked up idea from anyway? You have absolutely no in game evidence supporting it. Furthermore, you aren't basing the copmparisons on the behaviors, you're basing them solely on the placement of the Propagators in the ship. And you know what? I could give an explanation that makes a whole lot more sense than the one you did.

How about this: The Propagators were standing there because there isn't that much room on the damned ship. They spread out because they don't want to make it easier for them to get killed. That's all. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that they are related in any way to the main characters of the game, and even if they were, there is nothing that indicates that they have possessive powers of any sort.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

That theory does makes sense because it is logical. I would agree with it.

[Ryushikaze]

Indeed. It takes the available evidence- and rather a lot of it, too- and attempts to explain it without invoking any extraneous qualifiers to make it work.


BTW, Esthar. If you want your theories to be taken seriously, you should pony up your overtheory. No holding stuff back, no occasionally pulling out new stuff to cover your mistakes, no vague claims. All the evidence you've got, the theories you are deriving from it, all arranged together for everyone to see, test, and falsify.

[Future Esthar]

Indeed. It takes the available evidence- and rather a lot of it, too- and attempts to explain it without invoking any extraneous qualifiers to make it work.


BTW, Esthar. If you want your theories to be taken seriously, you should pony up your overtheory. No holding stuff back, no occasionally pulling out new stuff to cover your mistakes, no vague claims. All the evidence you've got, the theories you are deriving from it, all arranged together for everyone to see, test, and falsify.
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You are right.
But since this is a unique thread I choose to post all my theories,sometimes I post others.
But the challenge to show that was Zell still remains.

FE, I'm just curious; does this change the plot of the game any? What does it add to the plot? Just trying to see where you're coming from!

Of course it changes.The very way the world of FF8 appears.

Furthermore, you aren't basing the copmparisons on the behaviors, you're basing them solely on the placement of the Propagators in the ship.

Yes,it´s on behaviours.
I just base it on locations,the one at the entrance and the one at the aisle.

Note something interesting:

1)
Propagator at air lock room-Squall
Propagator at passenger room-Zell
Propagator at bridge´s elevator-Seifer
Propagator at hangar-Rinoa
Propagator at little room near hangar-Irvine
Propagator near locked door-Selphie
Propagator near entrance-Edea.
Propagator on aisle-Quistis.

I base this SOLELY on behaviour and physical details.

2)
Edea+Seifer=Rinoa.
Rinoa+Squall=Zell.
Zell+Quistis=Selphie.
Selphie+Irvine.

I base this solely on behaviour and feelings.

Now,I didn´t base 1 nor 2 on my "Propagator dominant gene" theory.I am telling the thruth.Believe-me.

But two days ago I made everything together and was amazed how everything fits together.

3)
Green+Grey=Grey
Grey+Orange=Orange
Orange+Red=Red
Red+Green.

Which means two Propagators always give birth to one whose color is similar to the one from one of the parents.
This is the "Propagator dominant gene" theory.
I developed this independently of 1 and 2 so it cames as an interesting coincidence which shows how everything fits toguether.

That theory does makes sense because it is logical. I would agree with it.

The Propagator theory?

[Ezer]

Hm...Interesting and logical. I think I will agree with Future Esthar's theories.
But the Propagator near the entrance is red, so it may be Quistis.

[Ryushikaze]

Heero was referring to Skyblade's theory, Esthar.

And Ezer, have you read all of his claims? Make sure you do before agreeing with him out of hand.

[Future Esthar]

I think Ezer already spot the behaviour character relation.