1572,the year of FF8.

**Ryushikaze** · 03-12-2006, 10:43 PM

Actually, had I ended the sentence there, it would be 'praising a mite', but I meant he was taking Ifrit's comments too literally. The same goes true of a lot of the words of the defeated in these games.

**Future Esthar** · 03-13-2006, 03:51 PM

Not only Ifrit but many other very strong GF say things like that.
By the way,the other students participated on the prerequisite but didn´t beat him.
Otherwise they would get him as a GF lefting Squall unable to get him.

What´s the rush with the transformation thing?
If you wanna to know PARTIALLY how they transform go see the FMV where Edea transforms.

**Ramza Beoulve** · 03-13-2006, 05:53 PM

Not only Ifrit but many other very strong GF say things like that.

"From legends to reality is a long way"

What´s the rush with the transformation thing?
If you wanna to know PARTIALLY how they transform go see the FMV where Edea transforms.

If you say so, but still there is no transformation from a Propagator and thas a Magic related transformation, like all other from other games.

and still, there's no transformation from the characters to a Propagator

**Ryushikaze** · 03-13-2006, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Not only Ifrit but many other very strong GF say things like that.

And I'm saying that you may be taking their incredulous words without the necessary grain of salt.

What´s the rush with the transformation thing?
If you wanna to know PARTIALLY how they transform go see the FMV where Edea transforms.

Which does not show a transformation from anything resembling a Propagator. As said before, she looks more like a red chocobo than a propagator.

**Zanius** · 03-13-2006, 07:24 PM

Still, it confuses me, because if you say that Edea suffered a transformation from a Propagator to a normal human being, then when that transformation happened with the other characters?

Plus: how could the Propagators co-exist when they were at the Ragnarok? I’m talking about Squall and Rinoa. Because the Ragnarok was at the space and not on Earth, between the holographic walls…

At that time the Propagators were defeated by Squall and Rinoa. Can you please explain this?

**Future Esthar** · 03-13-2006, 10:56 PM

You had been out for a long time,Soul_Hunter.
The answer to your questions were written on this thread.

If you say so, but still there is no transformation from a Propagator and thas a Magic related transformation, like all other from other games.

and still, there's no transformation from the characters to a Propagator

The characters weren´t possessed and losed their memory,that´s why they don´t transform.
And who said the transformation didn´t involve magic?

And I'm saying that you may be taking their incredulous words without the necessary grain of salt.

"Too good for a human"

I am sure Gf´s had a long experience in fighting people.
Garden dispatches Seed all over the world.
And some Gf remains there until our characters arrive.
12 years is much for battling humans isn´t it?
And they say "too good for a human" exactly to the ones who are supposed to defeat them(and they say it at low HP rightly a little before the battle finishes)?

**Bart's Friend Milhouse** · 03-13-2006, 10:59 PM

FE you seem to have a theory for just about everything maybe you can answer this:
Who says "You are indeed an interesting one brimming with passion" after the Bahamut fight?

**Ramza Beoulve** · 03-13-2006, 11:00 PM

The characters weren´t possessed and losed their memory,that´s why they don´t transform.
And who said the transformation didn´t involve magic?

I say involve magic, actually

**Zanius** · 03-13-2006, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Future Esthar

You had been out for a long time,Soul_Hunter.
The answer to your questions were written on this thread.

Ok, I'll go have a look... but if I don't like it... I'll bring this up again!

**Future Esthar** · 03-14-2006, 12:09 AM

Bahamut himself.He find them too interesting(for a human).

**Ramza Beoulve** · 03-14-2006, 12:21 AM

Yeah, but Bahamut is the king of dragons, it has his reasons, but not all of them, actually you don't get all the GF of a battle.

For example Phoenix, you never battle him, neither Eden, Carbuncle or Siren, and they are a great help to the team (in my case, Eden Carbuncle and Siren make a great team with my Diablos and my Cerberus)

**Future Esthar** · 03-14-2006, 01:12 AM

But I am sure they are weaker than the ones you get.
And Bahamut is the king of GF,not of the dragons.
He,being the king is wise.

**Azure Chrysanthemum** · 03-14-2006, 01:22 AM

You were asked to only have one active theory thread at a time. Which one do you want closed, this or the new one?

Edit: OK, start a new one and old one gets closed. That's how it'll be.

**Ryushikaze** · 03-14-2006, 01:43 AM

Might I just state that "The king is wise" is an incredibly unsupported position?

Or that Bahamut might simply have a poor opinion of humanity?

I note that you take Dialogue uber alles when it suits you FE.

**Heero Yuy NWZC** · 03-14-2006, 01:45 AM

Let me go back to some of the things:

1. transformation fo characters:one thing to say: their ancestors were the centra right? not the propogators. propogators are basically aliens. they are from a different world. transforming in any show or game that has ever been seen(at least permanent transformations) have never caused memory loss, and i don't think square is much for changing trends. if the propogators were from earth, ppl would have known about them. no one does in the game. in conclusion, the characters of VIII do not transform or ever did.

2. GF quotes: there is nothing really to say besides the fact that they are just stating how talented, strong, and different the characters are from other humans they have met/seen. no, i don't mean different as in they are from another race FE.

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