1572,the year of FF8.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

dude, FE is back! how's it goin man? It has been a while since I've seen you. Missed you dude. what's with the roman numerals? Don't you guys know that Square didn't make an explanation for everything?

[Ryushikaze]

Ryushikaze.my assumptions were logical.Logical don´t means proved(as I already explained but you don´t read).Just logical.If you think they weren´t show it to me.That would be easy and possible.

Your assumptions employ the grand deciever and extraneous, inevidenced- heck let's not bandy words MADE UP- elements to make them fit. Any time someone points out a flaw you make up something else to try and defend it. In short, you're trying to fit the evidence to fit your position, not the position to fit the evidence, and that is the height of irrationality.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

alright, Ryu, we have already had a talk with him about this and he knows. Some of the things he said can be logical or even questionable, but yes he does seem to make more theories to testify his first. With that said(again) pls don't bag on FE.

[Omnislash07]

i thought we were just going to let this thread die and everyone involved forget it ever happened... at least thats what i was planning on until someone posted in it again

*note to self "unsubscribe from all FE or FE related threads"

Ryushikaze everything you say has already probably been said in other parts of this thread or in other threads, but it doesnt matter cause FE wont listen. he just keeps going on and on making up more stuff to fit his little FF8 dream world

[Future Esthar]

Here you have.

Squall is running from the robot but the photograph shows Zell´s running(he is already on the boat).
Strange phenomena like this only on Pravda.ru

[Lychon]

i thought we were just going to let this thread die and everyone involved forget it ever happened... at least thats what i was planning on until someone posted in it again

*note to self "unsubscribe from all FE or FE related threads"

Ryushikaze everything you say has already probably been said in other parts of this thread or in other threads, but it doesnt matter cause FE wont listen. he just keeps going on and on making up more stuff to fit his little FF8 dream world

Yeah...dream world...cool.....

ANyways, Future Esthar, where'd you get that photo from? Is that actually a screen shot from the game because I never noticed it that way....


-LYCHON

[Future Esthar]

When Squall rans from the huge robot on the Dollet beach.

[Lychon]

When Squall rans from the huge robot on the Dollet beach.

Yes, I know the scene. I was just wondering if it was really from the game or if it was edited. But I think you already answered that anyways


-LYCHON

[Ryushikaze]

Squall wears pants. Zell wears shorts. That figure is wearing pants. That is not Zell. It's Squall in Lo-res Grayscale.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

Yeah, the screenshot was made at a bad time. It is Squall I have seen that cutscene many times and I know it is Squall. that poorly made screenshot makes you think otherwise. anyways, welcome back FE!

[Future Esthar]

Óf course.Zell´s counsciousness is inside Squall.

During this scene the picture suddenly change to Squall at some time.
Go play it if you don´t believe me.

Or wait until I post another screenshot.

[Ryushikaze]

Considering that the resolution is so bad that Squall's hand isn't even visible and his entire left shoulder is missing, and that the boy actually does have quite lightly colored highlights in the right light, there is no reason at all to believe that that image depicts Zell.

IN FACT...

I have located a much better resolution shot.



Note the sleeves, which Zell is not wearing on his uniform. Also note the distinct lack of Zell's prominent headcrest, which would extend well above his head.

In short- NOT ZELL.

[Future Esthar]

Did you read what I wrote?
I said the machine is taking a radiography of Zell inside Squall.
Black hair is not depicted white on black-and-white pictures.
I can take a screenshot similar to that were Squall appears.
Go see the scene and note the sudden change.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

alright FE, have you ever looked through a camera in night shot? black can turn white. this is most likely the same principle to that. as we all know, it was night when they went Squall's group went up to the comm. tower. therefore, it was night when they fought Elnoyle and afterwards when they fought the giant robot spider. for the spider to see clearly, it must have had night vision on. so when it was dawn and the sun was rising during that cut scene, the night vision of the robot spider's eyes made Squall's hair significantly brighter.

[Noj_R]

Im at the Dollet tower part in the game. I will solve this once and for all...Bwahaha!

EDIT: I got the screenshots. I took them them using the ePSXe emulator and the original discs. Notice Squall never changes the whole time, and anyone can watch this scene in the game as it is indeed in there. I will give short descriptions pertaining to the photos.

In the first photo, Squall ( yes, Squall ) is running towards the ship


In the second photo, Squall is encompassed by the robot's targeting recticule, and is scanned ( or something ). Yet Squall's appearance remains the same.


In the third photo, This time the seed ship is targeted with the recticule and is scanned. Squall is blocked by the targeting recticule but again, he and the ship's appearance remain the same...interesting...


Squall finally reaches the ship and the robot is blasted by Quistis in the next scene, Squall's appearance remains the same.


Other notes of interest:

Did you read what I wrote?
I said the machine is taking a radiography of Zell inside Squall.
Black hair is not depicted white on black-and-white pictures.
I can take a screenshot similar to that were Squall appears.
Go see the scene and note the sudden change.

1.) The “sudden change”, is the robot putting his targeting recticule on Squall and then the ship, whether it is targeting or scanning, Squall’s appearance NEVER changes, he looks like Squall the whole time.

2.) Black hair? Dude, Squall has BROWN hair, and it is light brown hair too. Light Brown would show up as gray in the picture, which it does.

3.) Zell's sleeves are rolled up, Squalls are always down. And Squall sleeves are down in the photos.

4.) Ryushikaze pointed this out, Zell’s headcrest is missing the whole time.

Conclusion: It is Squall running along the beach. There is no hint of Zell possessing him. Squall and the ship are temporarily targeted with the robot’s targeting recticule and are probably scanned ( though no one can truly know this ). It is possible the “scanning” was simply the robot targeting for attack. Anyone who wants to view the cut scene can play the game up to this point and view the evidence for themselves.

But even so, there is not enough evidence and the theory must be dismissed as false.