Quote Originally Posted by Omnislash07
Yes i know it was the same procedure but the clones had to have been exposed to a greater degree otherwise everyone in SOLDIER would be uber strong like Sephiroth.
You may want to play the game again; the "procedure" which produced Sephiroth was not the same as that applied to Sephiroth Clones. Such Clones are not genetic duplicates of Seph; they merely have been given JENOVA cells, which link them to him.

Sephiroth was injected with JENOVA cells while still in the womb; they merged with his biological material on a fundamental level. As such, Sephiroth is effectively an evolution of JENOVA; he embodies its instinctual goals, while complicating them through his own unique sentience. Sephiroth, in short, is not fully human. In spite of the JENOVA and Mako treatment, Sephiroth Clones are human.

Quote Originally Posted by Omnislash07
Also the black cloaked men were not the survivors of the Nibleheim incident because Seph killed them all. The only survivors were Zack, Cloud, Tifa, and Zangan.
Quite frankly, you've missed a key element of the plot. The black garbed figures are the survivors, as is stated in the literature to Hojo in Tifa's room.

"Periodic Report to Professor Hojo"

1. Clone Activity Report

Unfortunately, no 'CLONES' have left this town this quarter. As previously reported, the 'CLONES' seem to be sensing something. But all they say is 'reunion' or 'Sephiroth' and show no other signs of activity.

2. Confidentiality Report

A total of eight people have visited this town this quarter. Fortunately, none knew about the incident five years ago. Therefore, no one knows the town was restored exactly as it was five years ago. Our staff, disguised as townspeople have improved their acting skills, and we do not report any problems at this time.
If this is still not enough to convince you, realize that Zangan explicitly states in his letter to Tifa that there were other survivors. Zangan could only rescue Tifa, however; the others were soon after captured by Hojo and used in his experiments.

Tifa, what's happened to our town? Was it all an illusion, or just a dream?
No, it was neither. I remember trying to get people out of the flames, but not
having the strength... Burning with anger, I went to the reactor to kill
Sephiroth.

But he was nowhere to be found. Instead, I found you, collapsed inside. I felt
saving you was far more important than going after Sephiroth. There were
several others that were still alive inside, but I was only able to save you.

As I was coming out of the reactor, Shinra troops were just arriving. I recall
a scientist named Hojo was in charge. He ordered the troops to gather up
everyone still alive for the experiment. I didn't know what type of experiment
he was talking about, but I wasn't about to let them have my dearest student.


Putting you on my back, I headed down the mountain to the village. I used the
Cure spell on you many times and started to head for Midgar to look for a
doctor for you. I don't like that city, but my Cure spells weren't helping.

I decided to go to Midgar to find a doctor I could trust. I'm worried about
you, but I can't settle down in one place for very long. Have you recovered
fully? Are you well?

I wonder how many years have passed since then? I just got into town again, but
I can't believe it... The whole town is back to normal, except for the strange
beings with black clothes all around...

The town reeks of Shinra, but I won't go after them. You may think I'm running
from them, but it's just that I don't want anything to do with Shinra anymore.
Feels like time is running out.

I'm sure you'll find this letter. And this gift for you. It should come in
handy. I can't even jump anymore. But I hope you continue to sharpen your
skills and remember what I taught you.

To my most precious student, From Zangan.
Really, it can't be stated any more clearly than that.

Quote Originally Posted by Omnislash07
My proof that the Seph clones had additional Jenova cells and mako radiation treatment compared to the normal SOLDIER units came from you.
Escape report no. 2
Description at the time of capture.
A - Former member of SOLDIER/Number ( )
No effect could be detected from either Mako Radiation Therapy or Jenova on him
B - Regular/Number ( )
Reaction to Jenova detected.
Right there it says that the mako radiation and jenova cells had no affect on Zack which means they must have administered additional treatments other than his normal SOLDIER dose ecause they already would have known that his origional SOLDIER dose had no ill effects on him.
Again, you're attempting to use something as evidence that doesn't work as you intend. No effect was detected on Zack; as a result, he was fully conscious and able to enact their escape. Judging from LO, his combat abilities certainly weren't affected. Cloud, meanwhile, was affected by the JENOVA application. As a result, he was barely conscious, unable to do anything. If further experimentation had been applied to Zack, it stands to reason that he too would have experienced some sort of debilitating or otherwise deleterious effect. He did not.

Moreover, even had additional experimentation been implimented and had no effect, it undoubtedly would have been duly noted. You fail to realize that both Cloud and Zack were subjects in the Jenova Project; the parentheses in the report indicate that they had not yet been given tattoos (as the survivors of Nibelheim, the CLONES, had received). Further experimentation would have been pointless, as only that which was enacted had any purpose to that project.

I mean no offense, but your arguments simply do not match the canon material of the game, nor do they coincide with any other official SE material.