Quote Originally Posted by Omnislash07
Lucrecia got pregnant with Hojo's baby while Hojo was studing Jenova and so Hojo and Lucrecia agreed to inject the baby (Seph) with Jenova cells while it was still in the womb.
Dude i know how seph was created i was saying that the procedure to create SOLDIERs and Seph clones was similar.


Also the survivors in Zangan's note to Tifa are Zack and Cloud. Sephiroth killed all the townspeople and burnt down the vilage. Zangan said in the note that he tried to save people from the burning buildings but failed.

Quote Originally Posted by Masamune·1600
Again, you're attempting to use something as evidence that doesn't work as you intend. No effect was detected on Zack; as a result, he was fully conscious and able to enact their escape. Judging from LO, his combat abilities certainly weren't affected. Cloud, meanwhile, was affected by the JENOVA application. As a result, he was barely conscious, unable to do anything. If further experimentation had been applied to Zack, it stands to reason that he too would have experienced some sort of debilitating or otherwise deleterious effect. He did not.

Moreover, even had additional experimentation been implimented and had no effect, it undoubtedly would have been duly noted. You fail to realize that both Cloud and Zack were subjects in the Jenova Project; the parentheses in the report indicate that they had not yet been given tattoos (as the survivors of Nibelheim, the CLONES, had received). Further experimentation would have been pointless, as only that which was enacted had any purpose to that project.
You are missing the point entirely Im saying that the Seph clones received larger doses of mako radiation and j cells and as proof the quote that you had about the radiation and j cells having no effect on Zack has to mean that there were additional experiments on him, because he was in SOLDIER so the scientists already knew that the j cells and mako radiation at normal levels had no bad effects on him. besides if they were not going to experiment on him why did they keep Zack alive in a test tube for 5 years?

Also you mention that if Zack had been experimented on additionally then he would have been like Cloud. That is inccorect because we know that Zack was stronger mentally and physically than Cloud was because he was allowed to join SOLDIER in the first place. The fact that Cloud reacted badly to the experiments is no suprise because he would not even let him in SOLDIER which would have given him a much smalled dose of radiation and j cells. I think you are failing to realize that both Zack and Cloud are part of the Jenova project because that fact alone proves the fact that additional experimentation must have been done on Zack. Also in a side note, Hojo considered Zack and Cloud both failures so they were never going to get numbers and I dont really know why they were kept alive.

Lastly i didnt have time to put this in my last post (was at school and had to leave class) but on when Cloud defeats Seph at the Reactor you kept talking about his "Spirit Energy" and i dont know what the hell your talkin about with that. So if you could explain what you mean by that it would help.