Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 45

Thread: Er...

  1. #1
    Breast Member McLovin''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    can you be more specific?
    Posts
    4,501

    Er...

    I just don't understand the film.
    The whole Aerith appears here and there thing, the 3 silver haired men going after "mother", and then Kadaj becomes Sephiroth!? What?
    Then a magical rain comes down and cures everyone of Geostigma. Whoopey.
    And why is "mother" sealed within a little box?

    AH! I just don't get it!

  2. #2
    STILL Anti Balthier Setzer Gabianni's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Hull, East Yorkshire, England
    Posts
    1,786

    Default

    It was fanservice for those who liked Clud and fancy graphics.

    ~Setzer Gabianni


    Quote Renmiri on FFXII
    I bitch about the game a lot, mainly for the lack of story and weak characters, but it is still the best of the series out there.
    She loves it more then X!

  3. #3
    The Twilight Melody dragontamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Lost, still, In South Wales.
    Posts
    227

    Grin

    yes but the trailers ive watched have LOADS of screenshots of aeris (how do you pronoune this by the way) i mean, shes dead isnt she. they cant reserect her....Can they?
    (i havent played the game)
    Please visit my DeviantART page! If you have an account, please leave comments on my work to help me improve my drawing! Thanks!

  4. #4
    Breast Member McLovin''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    can you be more specific?
    Posts
    4,501

    Default

    Great help guys. We got a FF7 hater and a person who hasn't even played the game.

    Joy.

  5. #5
    The Twilight Melody dragontamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Lost, still, In South Wales.
    Posts
    227

    Grin

    YOU'R WELCOME!!!

    Please visit my DeviantART page! If you have an account, please leave comments on my work to help me improve my drawing! Thanks!

  6. #6
    Guy Fawkes Masamune·1600's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Burning in effigy
    Posts
    1,717

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    The whole Aerith appears here and there thing,
    After Aeris died in FFVII, she essentially became the directing consciousness of the Lifestream; that is, via strength of will, it seems she can somewhat direct the vast power of the Lifestream. This is anticipated by her "appearance" at the very end of FFVII, and establishes itself most clearly in the purging of Geostigma from its victims. Her periodic appearances to Cloud revolve around the fact that, even at the time of AC, he was unable to fully forgive himself for her (and others') deaths.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    the 3 silver haired men going after "mother", and then Kadaj becomes Sephiroth!? What?
    Kadaj is a Remnant of Sephiroth. This means that, as was also the case with Loz and Yazoo, he was formed when Sephiroth's body was blown apart following the final chain of events in the original game. Having been formed from Sephiroth, the three SHM are Sephiroth, in a sense, and instinctually desire to merge with JENOVA cells, which Kadaj does.

    Sephiroth is, effectively, almost indistinguishable from JENOVA, as he was given JENOVA cells while still in the womb, and has thus become the conscious embodiment of JENOVA's immutable aims. The aims become more complicated in Sephiroth, but stay true to the quintessential "needs" of JENOVA.

    This matters because Sephiroth's will is more important to his identity than his body. His identity is bound up in his personal perception--the silver haired man with the long sword--but the shape-altering qualities of JENOVA can replicate this completely (as seen with the Sephiroth forms encountered throughout the original game). His will, however, even though identical in fundamental goal to JENOVA, is unique, and therefore is necessary for JENOVA to fully manifest the form of Sephiroth. In being Remnants, Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo also manifested the thoughts/will of Sephiroth. Hence, Kadaj and the others are unknowingly subject (to a degree) to Sephiroth, embodied in their desire to bring about "Reunion." When, then, Kadaj merges his physical body (the biological material of Sephiroth, and, more importantly, the manifestation of Seph's thoughts and will), it is possible for a fully real Sephiroth to again realize himself on Gaia.

    What this means, in the long run, is that Sephiroth can only truly die when all JENOVA cells are eliminated, and/or when it becomes impossible for him to manifest his will on Gaia. Some JENOVA cells likely still exist following AC, but it seems unlikely that there is any obvious way for Sephiroth to use them to again manifest himself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    Then a magical rain comes down and cures everyone of Geostigma. Whoopey.
    The most common explanation for the rain is that it is AC's representation/interpretation of Aeris' final Limit Break, Great Gospel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    And why is "mother" sealed within a little box?
    The box contains the cells of JENOVA. As Remnants of Sephiroth, it's hardly surprising that the SHM view JENOVA as Mother.


    Hope that helps.
    Last edited by Masamune·1600; 03-07-2006 at 08:57 PM.

  7. #7
    Breast Member McLovin''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    can you be more specific?
    Posts
    4,501

    Default

    Thanks a lot dude!

    Another question.

    Why was Cloud associated with Rufus and gang?

    At that spring where Kadaj tells the kids to drink out of the water they suddenly act differently after drinking; why what was wrong with them?

  8. #8
    'Gabby Hayes' big Bart's Friend Milhouse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,380

    Default

    and who the heck does Cloud think he is feeding those kids water, John the Baptist?
    ...Geddit?

  9. #9
    Breast Member McLovin''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    can you be more specific?
    Posts
    4,501

    Default

    Clear and simple.

    Jesus.

  10. #10
    guffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    trapped in my own mind
    Posts
    271

    Default

    CLoud is associated with the Turks because he is an intense badass as are the Turks, they are meant to be friends!

  11. #11
    The Twilight Melody dragontamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Lost, still, In South Wales.
    Posts
    227

    Default

    hey can anyone give me a website where i can bye ff7 (AND CHEAP) . i just cant find it were i live.
    cheers!!
    Please visit my DeviantART page! If you have an account, please leave comments on my work to help me improve my drawing! Thanks!

  12. #12
    Breast Member McLovin''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    can you be more specific?
    Posts
    4,501

    Default

    Try Japan.

  13. #13
    Guy Fawkes Masamune·1600's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Burning in effigy
    Posts
    1,717

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    Thanks a lot dude!

    Another question.
    Sorry I'm only getting to these now. I've had a busy week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    Why was Cloud associated with Rufus and gang?
    Cloud was initially approached by Rufus to see if he would consider acting as a bodyguard. Cloud declined. Later, Cloud and the Turks were drawn together by common circumstance--Edge (the new city) was in trouble, and they were able to help each other.

    It should be noted that Rufus is reformed; he's no longer a villain. His speech to Kadaj before Bahamut TREMOR is summoned demonstrates this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    At that spring where Kadaj tells the kids to drink out of the water they suddenly act differently after drinking; why what was wrong with them?
    The Black Water that Denzel and the other children drank had been infused with Kadaj's will; it was meant to activate their Reunion instincts (remember that they had Geostigma), which would in turn lead the SHM to the "head of JENOVA." In all likelihood, Kadaj did this the same way the SHM summoned the Shadow Creepers--through manipulation of the "Negative Lifestream," the corrupted Spirit Energy of those who died from Geostigma.

  14. #14
    Breast Member McLovin''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    can you be more specific?
    Posts
    4,501

    Default

    Ah. Thanks!

  15. #15
    The Twilight Melody dragontamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Lost, still, In South Wales.
    Posts
    227

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Cage
    Try Japan.
    yes that realy going to help isnt it?!?!
    i dont understand a word of japanese! ( exept KONICHI WA_good afternoon)
    but maybe ill try when i go on holiday next year....
    Please visit my DeviantART page! If you have an account, please leave comments on my work to help me improve my drawing! Thanks!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •