Quote Originally Posted by Amaru
Huh? So you're saying that through the entire game it wasn't Sephiroth and it wasn't Jenova?
In the case of the ShinRa building at least like i said at that time Sephiroth was encased in Mako and if Jenova could've escaped itself it would have way before Cloud and Co. convieniently got there, so what freed it? Like I said before the clones are too weak to get past the guards and if it was Sephiroth's "spirit" able to cause actual harm, it would have been able to get the Black Materia from TOTA since as a spirit, he has no physical body to get crushed.

Quote Originally Posted by Amaru
I have no idea what you are saying about the Black Materia and Aeris' death being just a theory.
What I meant by that is that no proof is given about who or what takes the Black Materia or kills Aeris. Some people say Jenova disguised as Sephiroth, some say Sephiroth's spirit, one person tried to tell me that Holy requires a sacrifice to work and Aeris was showing Cloud and the gang an illusion of Sephiroth stabbing her to keep them on the trail while she lets herself die (although that would explain the lack of a hole or blood). What i'm saying is all of these are just theories and no definative proof can be found in the game for any one of them. It's the same case for when Tifa and Cloud are under the Highwind, but no one sane cares if the had sex or not.