View Poll Results: Zelda: RPG or Adventure?

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  • It's an adventure game because you mostly explore.

    26 72.22%
  • It's an RPG because things like going to shops to buy items and getting upgrades.

    4 11.11%
  • It's an adventure game for other reasons. (Specify)

    6 16.67%
  • It's an RPG for other reasons. (Specify)

    0 0%
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Thread: Is Zelda an RPG or an Adventure Game?

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    If it is simplier for you to process, please replace every mention I make of "Point & Click" with "Point & Click Adventure Game", mmmkay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lychon
    Incorrect. Firstly, you reference to text adventures is completely fallacious. The games you listed are adventure games, not point and clickers, and absolutely none of the games I cited previoulsy have anything to do with text adventure.
    Please, would you care to tell me where I said that any of the games you cited previously were text adventure? What I said was that the Point & Click genre was an evolution of the text adventure genre.

    Ever play Zork? It was text adveture game realeased many a moon ago.
    Okay, following me to this point?
    As time passed, graphics were introduced to many of these games.
    Hence we reach games such as the initial Kings Quest, which is essentially just a text adventure with graphics.
    Many people at this time expressed their frustration with this verbal based system of exploration.
    You still with me? This part is especially important!
    A system was pioneered (for which Sierra is often credited), whereby people could play through such games using a graphical interface. Instead of spending half an hour trying to find the right word for an action, all they had to do was POINT & CLICK!
    (Note: I'm actually old enough to have lived through 90% of this.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Lychon
    Like I said, prior to the adventure series developing into its prime, "point and clicker" was a suitable definition.
    And it still is, when you refer to those kind of games. Are you going to tell me that Syberia and Syberia II aren't Point & Click games?

    But hey, if you really want to be so incredibly fuzzy and trivial with your phrasing, then technically they are "Point & Click Adventure Games".


    Quote Originally Posted by Lychon
    Obvioulsy, you have not played the King's Quest or Gabriel Knight series,
    Actually, I have. Before you were even out of diapers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lychon
    ...otherwise you would know that these games exceed the complexity of point and clickers on an exponential scale.
    How, exactly?

    Yes, Kings Quest IV (one of my personal favourite games, ever, for record's sake) and Gabriel Knight were genuinely mature games in both their execution and their stories, with an amazing level of depth and intelligence, but this does not change the fact that you POINT with your mouse, and you CLICK on the screen, to move your avatar through the stories, often using items to solve puzzles in the scenery.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lychon
    Examples of Adventure games:
    King's Quest
    Gabriel Knight
    Police Quest
    Leisure Suit Larry
    Played them all. I recall quite clearly pointing and clicking on things, using my inventory of items to solve the puzzles in the gameword.

    Case in Point:
    "Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars" is a Point & Click game.
    "Broken Sword: The Sleeping Dragon" is an adventure game.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lychon
    Minesweeper, hearts, solitare, are not puzzle games. Puzzle games are games such as Tetris or Mahjong,
    Did I say that Hearts and Solitaire were puzzle games? No. I said the list of games you mentioned were either puzzle games or card games. Please, read what I actually type first, mmmkay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lychon
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Quest
    Why don't you read the first sentence of that article and then get back to me, mmmkay?

    Here is the article for Gabriel Knight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Knight
    Again, read the first sentence and get back to me, mmmkay?

    Here is the article for Day of the Tentacle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Tentacle
    Read the first sentence about the game's genre and get back to me.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island
    Why don't you read the first sentence of THAT article and then get back to ME, mmmkay?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_amazon_queen
    Or that, even.

    Pwned, as the youngsters would say.

    (I would never actually take the opinion of Wikipedia seriously, seeing how most of it's information is usually misinformed tripe submitted by internet fanboys, but if you feel that it's a credible source to help "prove" your point, then I may as well use it's articles to "prove" mine.)

    My point from the very beginning is that the games you listed were not simply adventure games. They were Point & Click Adventure Games, which is a very different beast to the basic adventure game itself, which is the genre into which Zelda lies.
    Last edited by Vincent Valentine; 03-16-2006 at 02:40 PM.
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