i wonder what ultemicia's real name

[Owen Macwere]

i think that she is the one who picked this fantasy name for herself.... it sounds great and powerful... u can almost see ultima in it, so ultima weapon was a monster in ff then couldn't she think for herself a great name that will sound fearful? she certainly will and close to "ultima'' is ultimecia female and strong.....at least that's what i think LoL

[Future Esthar]

The picture of Julia was painted on Ulti´s castle with a crown.
Ulti has red clothes like the woman in the picture.
People say it´s not Julia but if you go there you see that the "Love" picture stays between the Julia(XERAMPELINAE) and the "Watchman" ones.

The "watchman" picture depicts three guys which we can recognize as Laguna,Kyros and Ward on medieval clothes,maybe a little olders and they didn´t cut mustache nor beard.Kyros skin is badly depicted since that is a medieval picture.

Of course since it suposedly makes no sense to say Julia is Ulti people disregard this picture as not being from Julia.

Once again people trust more on game quotes than on graphical details and physical evidence.

However,the latter ones weight more than the first ones when one is searching for evidence.Much more.

[Viator]

I think we will never know what Ultimecia`s real name we just waste our time thinking about it.But i wonder too.

[Future Esthar]

Julia Heartily?

[Ryushikaze]

Y'know, FE, you still need to prove that the woman in the painting is Julia, and then must prove that it's Ultimecia, as opposed to someone in her family, or a monarch she 'adopted' along with the rest of her medieval facade.

And your mentioning of the incongruity between watchmen and L/K/W as you think it represents does not help your argument.

[Owen Macwere]

yep that is right......... prove it buddy

[Future Esthar]

I didn´t proved nothing.Of course not.

The real issue is that you are treat me like I am a joker and you are the serious ones.

But I am the one who uses the most correct form of thruth stablishment.

PHYSICAL evidence.

You use QUOTE EVIDENCE.

That is what I am trying to say.

Of course since it is a game no one can prove anything.

[Viator]

SAYS WHO?

[vampirepiggyhunter7]

Assbreath...

[Ryushikaze]

I didn´t proved nothing.Of course not.

The real issue is that you are treat me like I am a joker and you are the serious ones.

But I am the one who uses the most correct form of thruth stablishment.

PHYSICAL evidence.

You use QUOTE EVIDENCE.

That is what I am trying to say.

Of course since it is a game no one can prove anything.

No, you use horribly specific personal interpretation of physical evidence without a whole lot of backing, even when said physical evidence does not actually support your statement.

And BTW, you use a damn lot of quote evidence yourself when it suits you.

You also fraglantly violate parsimony.

Though I don't use quote evidence. I go one step higher, which I can, since FF8 is a game, created by humans. I go to the creator's word in the form of the Ultimanias. Their word, my good friend, is law in regards to the plot of their own materials.

[Arrianna]

I cannot believe this conversation is still going on?!
I've been reading this for the last few months almost since I started lurking here. lol


Topic wise? Who knows what her name is. We probably never will. As for why she would go by Ultimacia considering all the legends? For the same reason the nutjobs claim to be Christ, after all he is comming. The difference is that she happened to be right.

[Owen Macwere]

yeah me too....... Ultimecia is really famuse though.......LoL hope i was her though i am a male hehehehe.........

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

You ppl still goin at it? Dang. It's pretty simple to the answer of it all: She changed her name and she got rid of her past history whenshe ros eto power so it was erased from all memory as to her true name. As for all this other crap I'm not going to get into it.

[Owen Macwere]

yeah it is getting boring and is leading us no where......this is not a simple thing to discuss and also usless

[Leeza]

I'm closing this. Not because there is nothing left to discuss, but because people just can't seem to leave a thread well enough alone without putting in off-topic posts complaining about things that should have been better off unposted.