thank you so much!!those are such cute pictures. I love the artist's drawings.
thanks for the video. Those pictures really show fran and balthier are close friends.
thank you so much!!
thanks for the video. Those pictures really show fran and balthier are close friends.
(SPOILER) Yes, they are the best of friends - soulmates even - and more.... Those pictures may appear entirely platonic, but from all that I've seen and read - including the opinions and reviews of people who've finished the game - I get the impression that Fran and Balthier are already together. I think that she fell in love with him years before the game begins, and ran away with him for a life of high-flyin' piratey goodness. Just think: all of that time alone together in that big, empty airship.... I wonder how they pass the time.... *whistles*Originally Posted by atlanteay
Those pictures really show fran and balthier are close friends.
"...the Hume who took you away..."
"...I'm the same as that Hume [Balthier] now..."
"...I did it for you [Balthier]..."
....Fran, don't leave me now..." [Balthier knelt beside her, with his eyes closed, gently holding her hand]
"...Fran can tell all there is to know about a man just by looking at him..."
"...hey! thief boy [Vaan] - never seen a Viera before?!..." [Balthier - possessively]
"...is it hard having a second woman [Ashe], Balthier...?..."
"...Viera and Hume partners are quite rare, actually..." [Balthier - proudly]
Besides - they had better be together forever, because Fran gave up everything for him! She has no-one else to turn to, now....
aww that's so cute. I;m starting to like Balthier more and more. He always reminded me of a player sort of person like Irvine:rolleyes2
so now i'm just concerned about whether balthier and fran (SPOILER)died or not
So (SPOILER)Fran and Balthier end up together.I thought that Balthier was gonna end up being gay.I mean,haven't you guys seen his rainbow colored rings and bracelets!Not that homosexuality is a bad thing(I mean if I was in (SPOILER)Fran's position I'd leave my life to be with Balthier anydayThat was just my 1st conclusion.I was kinda expecting a Balthier-Vaan relationship!But I really like this (SPOILER)Fran-Balthier thing!Inter-species relationships are hot!
I wouldn't say that they "end up together", but I'm 99% sure that they're in love. The only official romantic relationship in this game is between Ashe and Lord Rasler (who is two years dead when the game begins). But Fran/Balthier and Vaan/Penelo are both heavily implied.Hardly! Balthier loves women! And wine! And fashion! He's a textbook dandy.I thought that Balthier was gonna end up being gay.
I don't think that Square-Enix has the gall to include a genuinely "gay" character in one of their games. Not in a significant role, anyway. That'll be the day! I think that Mukki - a rather ludicrous NPC - is the best we're gonna get.... It's sad. Gay/bisexual/pansexual/transgendered people are seriously underrepresented in video games. I wish the wide spectrum of human sexuality was explored more in the medium.... But, alas, the first gay main character in FF (if there ever is one) ain't gonna be Balthier!Yes - I love his jewellery.I mean, haven't you guys seen his rainbow colored rings and bracelets!Tell me about it! I wish a dashing and debonair pirate would come and steal me away from my family! Then I could live with him on his airship forever more.... Sounds like a dream.... *sigh*(I mean if I was in (SPOILER)Fran's position I'd leave my life to be with Balthier any day
That is cute. I guess this is going to be more like a mixed race relationship rather then mixed speicies then. Thanks, scooby for the pics and dialogue bit. I hope he isn't one of those playboy types or it will ruin the whole romance thing they seem to have.
So Ashe was really in love with Rasler?I thought that since they had a forced marriage(supposedly) that she really didn't care for him that much.And isn't Rasler the prince of Nalbadia? Because I saw the opening curscene on some site(You Tube I think)and I saw that(SPOILER)Dalmasca and Nalbadia were fighting on the Dalmasca/Nalbadia border and then Rasler died yada yada.The impression I got was that Dalmasca was in a conflict with Nalbadia,but I guess thats not the case.I just thought it was weird that the Emperor would marry his daughter off to a rival nation's prince.But wait...Ashe's dad,Emperor Dalmasca, is dead right?!!?It's actually the Archadian Emperor,right?...
*ughh*You know what,I am really confusing myself!I know this has little to do with Fran and Balthier, but would someone clarify the plot for me?
Okay. Ashe and Rasler were in an arranged marriage - to establish a political alliance between the neighbouring kingdoms of Nabradia (Rasler's kingdom) and Dalmasca (Ashe's kingdom). These two kingdoms were not at war with one another prior to their marriage.
(SPOILER)I believe that Ashe truly loved Rasler, though (and vice versa) - despite the fact that her marriage to him was arranged. Sometimes people can be happy within an arranged marriage; sometimes they can work out well for both spouses. Ashe seemed very happy and content on her wedding day. And when Rasler died she was distraught: she wept at his funeral, and even fell to her knees with grief beside his coffin.
Two years later, she is still mourning him. Her heart is heavy with grief over the deaths of both Rasler and her father. Ashe has flashbacks of Rasler throughout the game. In one, we see them share this exchange:
RASLER IS STOOD ON THE BALCONY OF THE PALACE, OVERLOOKING THE CITY OF DALMASCA. ASHE COMES THROUGH THE DOOR BEHIND HIM, AND APPROACHS HIM TENTATIVELY.
Rasler: Our marriage is a symbol of the union between Nabradia and Dalmasca. That's what everyone is saying.
Ashe: A symbol?
Rasler: My duty as part of the royal family. It's tiring playing a part.
ASHE LAYS A HAND OVER RASLER'S HAND. HE LOOKS AT HER.
Ashe: I'll honor it.
Rasler: I'm glad it was you.
RASLER SMILES AT ASHE VERY WARMLY INDEED. A WHITE LIGHT BEGINS TO ENVELOP HIM AS THE FLASHBACK ENDS.
So...you can see that Ashe remembers Rasler very fondly. She also still wears her wedding ring - and treasures it. There is a whole subplot involving the wedding ring, but I won't divulge it (unless you want me to!).
Lastly, Ashe sees Rasler's "ghost" many times throughout the game. (The "ghost" is actually an apparition created by an enemy force, using Rasler's image in an attempt to play with Ashe's emotions and manipulate her.)
Last edited by scooby; 10-15-2006 at 12:46 AM.
thanks scooby that really cleared things up for me
You're very welcome.
I think it's time for some more Fran/Balthier media!
The incredibly shippy Fran/Balthier scene that I described earlier in the thread: ((SPOILER)"Fran is lying on her back, talking to Balthier, who bends over her. Her words are slow, pained (is she wounded?), and one of her hands is cupping his cheek. She smiles weakly up at him. The camera cuts to Balthier, who gazes down at her lovingly. He gently pulls her hand from his face and clasps it with his own. He smiles sadly and closes his eyes - looking both deathly afraid and "blissed out") can now be downloaded here.
Video details: MAJOR SPOILERS!, vid is 09:52 mins long (includes battle with (SPOILER)Cid), (poorly) subtitled in English, "the scene" begins at 07:13 mins into the video.
I'm playing FFVI for the first time at the moment (and enjoying it immensely
Last edited by scooby; 10-15-2006 at 01:07 AM.
hmm. is there a trick to the link for the video? every time i click on it i just go to the filefront home page. what do i need to do in order to see the video (besides waiting till fall and buying the game)? i've become too addicted to fran and balthier *sigh*. ha. in fact i was about to pass up on ffxii entirely until i saw the renders of fran and balthier (first impression was - :O_O: omg. they're the hottest ff characters ever! XD).
yeah they totally are the hottest!
I've recently been doing some thread maintenance - fixing dead links, etc. - and I noticed that there are problems with the FileFront links. For some reason, they are all redirecting to the FileFront homepage....
I'm working on fixing this. I'll update if I make any progress.
In the meantime, you can drool over the scrumptious Fran/Balthier pictures that I've attached to this post. Yes! More pictures!!!
yay!more pics.Is it just me or are the FF12 cast more...attractive than the other FF characters...which is interesting since FF12 has a lower polygonal count than the last few
Yea... they are ridiculously more attractive than previous FF characters. Maybe it's just Akihiko Yoshida's aesthetics (to make them all look like pretty girls with the only differentiating factor being the body). I mean that pic with Vaan, Fran, and Ashe - who'll agree with me when I say that if Vaan had a female body, he'd be the prettiest in the game? But I still love Yoshida's artwork! even his Tactics people who don't have noses XD He makes me want to devote endless hours drawing Fran and Balthier. *hmmm slightly off-topic - sorry*
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