Fran and Balthier?

[scooby]

...Moving on from "hating Fran"...which is the kind of topic that could potentially get the thread closed....

If you want to continue this discussion of Fran's supposed lack of popularity, and its possible causes - kindly take it elsewhere, guys. Thanks. This is a thread for discussion of Fran and Balthier's relationship. Let's try and stay on-topic.

Okaaay.... I've fixed all of the dead links in the thread (and replaced a few with some surprises). Additionally, "the scene" is now available on YouTube. Video details: MAJOR SPOILERS!, vid is 09:52 mins long (includes battle with (SPOILER)Cid), (poorly) subtitled in English, "the scene" begins at 07:13 mins into the video. I suggest you all catch it now, because videos on YouTube are always liable to being taken down (as regular viewers of this thread should know by now...).

Balthier (SPOILER)has such an "in love" look, in this scene; it's plain to see. The way he closes his eyes.... <3 *sigh*

And no, English isn't my native language, but I usually don't leave such stupid mistakes - sorry about that, urgh :rolleyes2 . I can only say to my defense that I was writing those at around 2 AM, and that at that hour, my attention span is greatly shortened.

Btw, I didn't mean for my question, about English not being your native language, to sound insulting or snotty (and now fear that it did).... Your English is superb. In fact, had I not already know that you're from Switzerland (as I read in your profile), I would have thought you a native English speaker.

So, you're trilingual, huh? Impressive. Multilingualism is a great asset.

...but whatever the outcome, I must warn you (SPOILER)I may remain a Balflear/Ashe shipper in my fanfics please don't hit me

Hey - it's cool. You're at perfect liberty to ship whomever you like.

[marysonnie]

I wish there were some more English scenes on youtube so I could get a better feel for Fran's voice...the trailer doesn't do it a lot of justice. I guess I just have to wait a few months for someone to post all the English Fran/Balflear scenes ^^

[scooby]

I wish there were some more English scenes on youtube so I could get a better feel for Fran's voice...the trailer doesn't do it a lot of justice. I guess I just have to wait a few months for someone to post all the English Fran/Balflear scenes ^^

A YouTube user has been uploading tons of cutscenes from the English game (many of which feature Fran), onto this page. He updates it regularly - so keep checking back.



Edited to add: So...the videos have been removed from YouTube. I hope that some of you managed to catch a few, before they were taken down.

But - on the plus side: only 9 more days' wait, for the Americans!!! Then, hopefully, a flood of new Fran/Balthier shippers will pour in here and revitalise the thread!

[marysonnie]

Thank you, scooby ^^ Good on you!

[yojimbosoul]

so.........

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[Dynast-Kid]

Well, I got my copy of the game yesterday!

So now i'll be able to contribute to the discussion instead of agreeing with Aria and scooby!

On a side note, Fran's voice is AMAZING! Whoever voiced her should win like, an Oscar or something. Balthier's voice is pretty good too, he's got a British accent.

I haven't really sensed any of the romance aspects of the game yet (i'm only about six hours in) but i'm sure i'll see some later.

[marysonnie]

From what I could hear, Fran's got an adorable voice. She and Balthier have very compatible voices.

[Dynast-Kid]

From what I could hear, Fran's got an adorable voice.

Yes, she does.

(SPOILER)Anyways, I did kinda sense a little 'love' in the Nalbina Dungeons after you defeat Daguza and his Seeq thugs. Well not really love. Anyways, when Vaan questions Fran's power to sense Mist, Balthier is very quick to put him in his place. I thought that display kinda signalled a closer relationship.

[Aria28]

From what I could hear, Fran's got an adorable voice.

Yes, she does.

(SPOILER)ANyways, I did kinda sense a little 'love' in the Nalbina Dungeons after you defeat Daguza and his Seeq thugs. Well not really love. Anyways, when Vaan questions Fran's power to sense Mist, Balthier is very quick to put him in his place. I thought that display kinda signalled a closer relationship.

Whoohoo! Congrats on getting the game al-bhed_kid, looking forward to read your comments here
If you liked that scene, wait until you get to (SPOILER)Eruyt village(about mid-game). There's a scene....nah, I won't spoil it for you, but it's maybe the funniest one in the whole game (and I'm sure one that scooby must have watched over and over....well, me too to be honest )

[Dell]

^(SPOILER)That how old are you scene? That scene is funny. However, the scene before you fight Gilgamesh is still the funniest....for me

*Try to beat Aria* Ashe is married and she actually love her husband so much. And she refused to take Balthier as her new husband.

The scene in (SPOILER)Pharos at Ridorana - Third Ascent ~Mete of Dynasty~, the one when they're trying to destroy the Nethicite. kinda show the relationship between Balthier and Fran.

[scooby]

Just gonna comment quickly on the last few posts in the thread:

1. Balthier doesn't have a "British accent"; there's no such thing. The UK (United Kingdom) comprises four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. In each of these countries, there exists a multitude of different regional accents. E.g., in England, there is (to name a few) Scouse (from Liverpool), Geordie (Newcastle), Cockney (East London), Janner (Plymouth - where I'm from - but, thankfully, I DON'T have the accent!!!), etc. Balthier sounds like he comes from somewhere in the South East of England; one of the Home Counties. It drives me mad when I hear/see ignorant people saying things like "...from Britain and Scotland..." Er...hello!!! Scotland is a part of Britain!!!

2. Don't like Balthier's plummy, CAMP!, posh-boy accent.... More on that, later....

3. Getting tired of all the crude jokes about Fran, that I've been seeing on other message boards. Don't like her accent, either.

I found a MUCH bigger version of the gorgeous Yoshida drawing of Fran and Balthier; think it's a scan from the art book. I've attached it to this post.

[Dynast-Kid]

Just gonna comment quickly on the last few posts in the thread:

1. Balthier doesn't have a "British accent"; there's no such thing. The UK (United Kingdom) comprises four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. In each of these countries, there exists a multitude of different regional accents. E.g., in England, there is (to name a few) Scouse (from Liverpool), Geordie (Newcastle), Cockney (East London), Janner (Plymouth - where I'm from - but, thankfully, I DON'T have the accent!!!), etc. Balthier sounds like he comes from somewhere in the South East of England; one of the Home Counties. It drives me mad when I hear/see ignorant people saying things like "...from Britain and Scotland..." Er...hello!!! Scotland is a part of Britain!!!

Sorry, I didn't intend to offend or anything.

2. Don't like Balthier's plummy, CAMP!, posh-boy accent.... More on that, later....

I'm actually quite fond of his accent...

3. Getting tired of all the crude jokes about Fran, that I've been seeing on other message boards. Don't like her accent, either.

What are these mysterious message boards? Fran is probably my favorite Final Fantasy character to date!

And I am in love with her voice.

I found a MUCH bigger version of the gorgeous Yoshida drawing of Fran and Balthier; think it's a scan from the art book. I've attached it to this post.

Yeah, that's in the art book. I love it as well. And thanks Aria!

Anyways...
Read On...On the Dreadnought Leviathan I also sensed a (more crude) Fran/Balthier vibe.

When Fran goes into her Mist-induced Super Ultra Crazy Hyper Homocidal Mode, Balthier and Penelo have a quick exchange something like this:

Penelo: What's wrong with her?

Balthier: Well, I always knew Fran wasn't very fond to being tied up.

I know that there is a myriad of things that comment could be alluding to, but I took that as a sort of double entendre. Just think about it...; )
I don't know if i'm just reading to deep into that statement (or if I was just really dirty-minded that particular day) but that's what I took from it.

Yeah, nothing major or definite.

[scooby]

Just gonna comment quickly on the last few posts in the thread:

1. Balthier doesn't have a "British accent"; there's no such thing. The UK (United Kingdom) comprises four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. In each of these countries, there exists a multitude of different regional accents. E.g., in England, there is (to name a few) Scouse (from Liverpool), Geordie (Newcastle), Cockney (East London), Janner (Plymouth - where I'm from - but, thankfully, I DON'T have the accent!!!), etc. Balthier sounds like he comes from somewhere in the South East of England; one of the Home Counties. It drives me mad when I hear/see ignorant people saying things like "...from Britain and Scotland..." Er...hello!!! Scotland is a part of Britain!!!

Sorry, I didn't intend to offend or anything.

...And I didn't mean to sound so rude. I apologize. It just gets to one...when one constantly hears the misnomer: "British accent".

2. Don't like Balthier's plummy, CAMP!, posh-boy accent.... More on that, later....

I'm actually quite fond of his accent...

It's not that I think his voice is bad, per se.... Indeed, I think that Gideon Emery put in a decent performance.... It's just that, it rather pales in comparison with the Japanese voice - courtesy of one of my favourite seiyuus: Hiroaki Hirata. Balthier's Japanese voice is sooooo sexy , and his English voice...well...isn't. :-\ To me, camp = NOT sexy. I find it to be a major disappointment. Laughably camp.

3. Getting tired of all the crude jokes about Fran, that I've been seeing on other message boards. Don't like her accent, either.

What are these mysterious message boards? Fran is probably my favorite Final Fantasy character to date!

And I am in love with her voice.

Again, I was speaking comparatively. If I hadn't already been so in love with Fran's Japanese voice, perhaps I would've found her English voice more tolerable. As it is, it grates on me.

I was mostly referring to the (extremely active) FFXII message board on GameFAQs. "You know what rabbits like doing..." etc.

Anyways...
Read On...On the Dreadnought Leviathan I also sensed a (more crude) Fran/Balthier vibe.

When Fran goes into her Mist-induced Super Ultra Crazy Hyper Homicidal Mode, Balthier and Penelo have a quick exchange something like this:

Penelo: What's wrong with her?

Balthier: Well, I always knew Fran wasn't very fond to being tied up.

I know that there is a myriad of things that comment could be alluding to, but I took that as a sort of double entendre. Just think about it...; )
I don't know if I’m just reading to deep into that statement (or if I was just really dirty-minded that particular day) but that's what I took from it.

Yeah, nothing major or definite.

It could be interpreted that way...or, he could've just meant that Fran likes freedom.... Balthier's pretty cheeky - so, like you said, probably a deliberate double entendre.

[Zeromus_X]

I'd like it better if they just stayed partners. I'm happy that this game is absent of any romantic subplots.

But that Yoshida drawing is so adorable.

[Tainted Angel]

This reminded me about a picture i found a while ago. I'm not sure if its official art or not but i liked it. I've been wondering about that myself but i think that there is romance between them.

Page three of the artbook. It's a color sketch.

She's a Viera!!! Like, 95% human, or something. It's no worse than Garnet and Zidane (that monkey-boy). He had a tail! Or how about (SPOILER)Quina and Vivi getting married?! Way, way weirder!

There is one known case of Minbari and Human having a childe,. and for all we know Vorlon genetics was involved. (The whole 'losing souls (SPOILER)to the humans' thing. The minbari genome had traces of human in part of it.)

Please don't double post; use the Edit button to add information to a recently made post. Thanks! ~ Zeromus