It's not.
It's not.
fran and balthier is no different from an amarant and lani thing
Fran and Balthier have an adult relationship which is prolly romantic, but it is something that is kept personal between them and communicated in little comments throughout the game. They are not fighting for their love or anything like that, they are just together, and nothing more needs to be said. You could prolly argue the romantic part, but I think after playing the game, it would be hard for something to think that they were 'just friends.'
phew...
that's a relief...for me and the translation teamon a side note, it's amazing how my productivity has gone down in the past couple of weeks...between analyzing every nuance in the interaction between fran and balthier and the plethora of fan art they've inspired, everything else is getting pushed to the back burner...
Perhaps the Japanese aren't as dumb as us Americans who need to be slapped in the face with everything or else lose the meaning altogther- perhaps the 'thank you' in the original Japanese ending was more than just a 'thank you' but they changed it for fear that the less than intelligent gaming audience of the US would understand.Originally Posted by scooby
Since Yuna was based on a traditional Japanese archetype, a Japanese audience might have been able to make certain inferences about her behavior which a Western audience could not. For example, a Japanese audience would understand the rules of formality which held her back from expressing her true feelings to Tidus, while the general American audience might think she was cold if all she said was 'thank you.'
I get the impression that Fran and Balthier are good friends with a great deal of admiration, respect, and history between them; Amarant and Lani didn't care about each other at all and held each other in contempt. Amarant even turned on her when he disapproved of her tactics.
Fran and Balthier are much different. She leaves her old life behind for him, a bittersweet parting at best. They're partners, and it's both stated and implied that Amarant works alone.
Last edited by marysonnie; 11-17-2006 at 06:30 AM.
hmm...
though it is a matter of cultural perception, i don't think it is a matter of "being slapped in the face." there are several reasons why an american audience would a) be upset with a relationship between fran and balthier (this thread is a testimony to that) b) would immediately discount a possible relationship between fran and balthier (once again, reading through the posts on this thread and else where would confirm that). are the possiblities of a and b happening higher in america than in japan? maybe. if so, it falls to the translation crew to adequately translate this relationship for us. translation is more than just finding the corresponding word, it is finding the corresponding feeling, i think. as i understand, it is typically not acceptable for a woman to eat out at restaurant alone in china. it would apparently have negative implications on her character, so, if i were tranlsating a scene in which a woman was eating alone at a restaurant in a non-chinese movie, i would make efforts to make it obvious that the woman was not, to be blunt, a prostitute or something similarPerhaps the Japanese aren't as dumb as us Americans who need to be slapped in the face with everything or else lose the meaning altogther- perhaps the 'thank you' in the original Japanese ending was more than just a 'thank you' but they changed it for fear that the less than intelligent gaming audience of the US would understand.
What a difference voice acting makes...
So, at the time of writing, FFXII has been out in the US for almost two months. But...I still haven't got my hands on it yet! Ah, the pains of being an English gamer.... So far, the only way I've been able to experience FFXII - in both its Japanese and English versions - is through internet download. Well, only a couple of months' more wait....
I'm still a Balthier/Fran shipper...but their inferior (IMO) English voices have made me realise how much of my initial infatuation with the couple was due to the magnificent performances of their Japanese seiyus. (Phew. Long sentence.) My passion for them has cooled a little, I must confess.
I have more to say on this subject...but I'm practically dozing off on the keyboard, so it'll have to wait until another day. So busy lately.... Even FF has had to take a backseat these days....
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN'T!!!!!!!! I WON'T STAND FOR IT!!!!!! I KNEW IT!!!!1 RIGHT AFTER I READ THAT LAST PART AFTER THE CID THING IN THE WALKTHROUGH, I WAS LIKE ****!!!!!!!! i'm gonna cry now.........*sniff* this sucks!!!!!
P.S. after calming myself down from this sudden shock, i think i was a bit too emotional cause there's too many favors of this pairing out there and i don't want to make enemies. O.O but still....him and her? yea, they're partners and all, and there's a big dramatic twist, but still.......
Last edited by animegrl357; 12-23-2006 at 04:57 AM.
they're not romantically involvedXD Ashe's got the hots for BalthierXD
hrmm...i thought she was still obssesed with her deceased husband. O.O
i just killed the mandagora beasts and i killed the crystalbug. fran helped me a lot!!!!! i guess i don't hate her now......but i might after the cid battle!! X(
That doesn't mean Balthier reciprocates those feelings.
And if you hate Fran, the we've got a serious problem, bub.
hahaha, how can i hate a viera? besides, if i try and kill her or something, the whole entire viera place will come after me. O.O
~my favs~
Actually, the Viera probably wouldn't care what happened to Fran. Well, maybe Mjrn.
Last edited by Dynast-Kid; 12-27-2006 at 01:26 AM.
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