Quote Originally Posted by Maxx Power
Quote Originally Posted by vivi_ultima
SHUT UP!!!!!! Both Lulu and Kimahri are my favourite in FFX. I'll do everything to complete them. If I too lazy, Kimahri, Yuna and Lulu are my choice to use.
Favouratism hasn't a thing to do about it. I'm forever championing the hawtness of Kimahri. However, from a technical stand-point, both he and Lulu can be considered inferior to the other characters. End-game all of the characters are capable of learning every skill baring Overdrives, so we must consider them and them alone. Both Tidus and Wakka win the physical damage game, since they have Ace of the Blitz and Attack Reels respectively. Yuna of course has her Summons (Oblivion/Passado anyone?). Rikku has her mixes, which are insanely useful and sometimes necessary for the hardest of enemies in the game.

Kimahri only has four attacks of note : White Wind, Mighty Guard, Bad Breath and Nova. White Wind is a semi-useful healing spell, but nothing a Megaelixir/Rikku Mix couldn't cover. Mighty Guard again is very useful, but most people already have Auto-haste/protect/shell, and if not then you can again Mix it. Bad Breath is very useful on normal enemies, but in the face of bosses and the like it's usefulness it stunted severely. Nova is perhaps the most unusually because it uses Kimahri's Magic stat, but calculates itself like a Physical attack (As in [([Stat ^ 3 / 32] + 30) * Pwr / 16] as opposed to [Pwr * ([Stat ^ 2 / 6] + Pwr) / 4]. Nova's power is 70). However the maximum it's going to do is 99,999, which is probably the damage characters do with a single physical hit.

Lulu of course has her furies. Now the damage done by these is much lower than that of the original spell. Even if you were to get as many furies as possible with the most powerful spell, Ultima, chances are you won't be doing a whole lot of damage. You could theoretically increase your magic stat high enough so each hit does 99999 damage, but I've never ever heard of anyone using this technique, so I'm going to assume that it isn't possible.

Of course the same logic can be applied to Auron, since his overdrives are equally as weak, and yes that is the case. He's put in the same area as Kimahri and Lulu as far as I'm concerned in relation to end-game ability.

So yes, in my personal opinion it's really not worth getting Lulu and Kimahri's Celestial Weapons unless you really want to. The other character's weapons are much less of a hassle to gain (apart from Wakka's, since unless you like Blitzball you're in for a whole world of pain).
who's going to power-up Ixion and Shiva? I'm the one with perfect win so I'm going to get all at any cost.

Kimahri and Lulu is useful for me. They also my favourites. Whatever, you say, that won't change my opinion about these two character. Wakka sigil is the easiest if you play Blitzball well (just use Jecht Shot over and over). Auron is even stronger than Tidus, his Tornado hit a lot in International (about 16 hit, I think)99999 x 16, what damage could be. Wakka can achieve 12, While tidus 8. Can't past 16.