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    I went at 12:01am on Thursday the 23rd to my local EB Games and picked up my Xbox 360, Collectors Edition Oblivion and Call of Duty 2.

    Oblivion is so much better than Morrowind, imo. The battle sytem is so much better, so are the quests you do in the main storyline (especially sealing the gate of oblivion), you get to team up with other characters and fight with them against monsters, and unlike morrowind where they just dump you in the game, oblivion's first dungeon you have to go through acts like a tutorial. Even though the maps are so huge, you can steal/borrow horses and ride there, or if you've already been to that certain town, you can just click on it on the map, and you'll be transported there in an instant. Oblivion is so much easier to understand compared to morrowind.

    Other than that, I've only played Oblivion for a few hours, I've been hooked on Call of Duty 2 online.

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    With a whole lot of tweaking and patience, I've been able to get it to the point where, if I'm outside away from large settlements, I can play the game. The settings are all at minimum, but hey. The fact that I played it for two solid hours last night despite the massive slowdown in the tutorial dungeon, and despite the fact that if I'm near more than one creature or person is slows down like crazy, I think shows how excellent a game it is. I'm already seeing things I like much more than Morrowind (Whoo ragdoll!) and the few examples of RAI I've seen show it to be a little strange at times, but a lot of fun anyway.

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    MUAH!! I've been playing it since wednesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasyjunkie
    I can't get it till payday on March 31st :grr: :sad:
    I got lucky, FRY'S Electronics had it on sale for $38 and my wife just happend to be in a good mood! I can not believe how good that game is! I was in some guys shop in the Imperial City and I read a book on his counter that had a song about nudity in Morrowind. Too funny.
    It's like World of Warcraft without the griefers, lag, monthly payments, noobs acting dumb, nerfs, waiting in line to play...
    And unlike Morrowind, there were people walking around talking to each other and having actual conversations. It was nice having it on DVD too, installation took only a couple of minutes, without a whole slew on CDs to pop in and out.
    One thing I have to say though, make sure you have at least a gig of ram, it's a system hog.

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    I read the reviews about it and they sounded quite enticing. But one thing I must know before I even begin to think about getting it is how much different is the exploration process in this game from that of the exploration process in online multiplayer rpg's.

    Because as most people know the main downfall of online rpg's is that in order to do much of anything at all you have to go through tons of very boring monster bashing to level up your character just so he will be powerful enough to start exploring.

    Because that is one thing I can't stand about multiplayer online games is that you can't really do the things you want to do in the game until you have gone through hours upon hours of tedious leveling up just so your character will be powerful enough so he won't be killed by monsters while you are trying to explore.

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    do take note its a roleplay game, you could stay in that first dungeon that whole time if it was your goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkchrono
    I read the reviews about it and they sounded quite enticing. But one thing I must know before I even begin to think about getting it is how much different is the exploration process in this game from that of the exploration process in online multiplayer rpg's.

    Because as most people know the main downfall of online rpg's is that in order to do much of anything at all you have to go through tons of very boring monster bashing to level up your character just so he will be powerful enough to start exploring.

    Because that is one thing I can't stand about multiplayer online games is that you can't really do the things you want to do in the game until you have gone through hours upon hours of tedious leveling up just so your character will be powerful enough so he won't be killed by monsters while you are trying to explore.
    To level up, you have to repeatedly use the skills you choose to be your "major" skills. However, by creating your own class, you could choose skills that aren't related to combat. Sure, you'd still have to fight, but you wouldn't have to spend hours and hours fighting just to get to the good stuff.

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    Man, the game is out over here, but I still can't play it. I don't have an X-Box360 and my computer is nowhere near good enough. In about 3 months, I'll be getting a new computer, though. And once I get my new computer, I'll get Oblivion too.

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    this wednesday I am getting it.

    yay for me ^_^

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    I saw a dead troll under a bridge. He had a suicide letter on him saying that he drowned himself becasue he wasn't scarey enough to make anyone pay a toll to cross the bridge. I laughed for a long time

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    I love it how ALL the npcs talk.

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    even the random ones, ALL!

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    I'm kind of late to the party with this one. Ummm... I just wrote an e-mail with my impressions of the game to my friend who suggested that I get this game. I don't feel like editing or re-writing what I've already written, so I'll just copy it.
    So I got Oblivion for PC and I have played for roughly 4-5 hours. So far I am not understanding why this game is getting such high marks! In my opinion this game is like Ultima plus one minus two.

    For one I am not at all impressed with the graphics which everyone is raving about. Sure the textures are high res and the game has nice bumpmapping, but graphics are about more than what your graphics engine can do for you. The graphics remind me of how I feel about the Unreal Tournament games, it's like really machine-intensive high-res graphics pasted on a bunch of ugly models with bad animations. I'm not really all about graphics, but I was surprised to see what the game looked like on high settings, considering how good I've heard the game looks.

    Next, out of the 4-5 hours I've been playing so far, maybe two of those were solely the time it took for me to create a character that I was even a quarter of the way satisfied with. Er...actually I wasn't at all satisfied, it's just that after two hours I concluded that it was impossible to make a character that didn't look like either the ugliest, most deformed woman I have ever set my eyes upon, or a messed up 3d mesh that looks like some amateur 3d modeler went through and edited point by point.

    I finally started the game, and as soon as I was given the opportunity to test the controls in that cell I could already tell how clunky they were. Something about the way it controls just feels so...unfinished? buggy? I couldn't even see my pony tail because it was going through the mesh on my tunic. I was trying to be forgiving until I found the punch button and heard my 3d disaster-mesh-faced woman cry out and swing her arms in the single worst attack animation I have ever seen in my life (and I've played Ehrgeiz).

    The clunkiness and general bugginess didn't get any better as i explored the first area killing giant rats with my Darth Vader/Frankenstein "I've got no points of articulation"-esque punches. It got a bit better when I got my first sword, but unfortunately that was around the same time that I discovered that there was certain angles that I could point my camera at my character that would make her hair simply disappear altogether! Being bald actually didn't make her look any worse, though.

    I didn't find out about the jump button until I had gotten out to the outside world map area. Before that I thought that you were incapable of jumping since the "set controls" option doesn't have jump listed. Now, I don't know if I was more upset when I thought you couldn't jump or when I performed my first jump, probably the former. I think I'd rather just stick with not having the option than having to look at my ugly woman spontaneously become airborne and make a static pose in the air as if she were sitting on a high toilet seat every time I need to jump over something. Needless to say, I have done a lot of walking around obstacles.

    I was excited to encounter some people having a campfire not far from the sewers in which I had just emerged (By the look of my character, that was actually a suitable entrance into the world of Oblivion). Before I can even get within a reasonable proximity of them I hear one yell "If it's a fight you want, it's a fight you'll get!" followed by shooting arrows at me and encouraging his friend to rush me with a battle axe. I killed them and took their shoes, but I just wondered "Why?" I was attacked by a summoner(?) in a similar fashion soonafter. I guess they were evil to the core, or something.

    Finally I met a knight who surprisingly didn't want to kill me and I was introduced to the interpersonal communication interface and the disposition minigame thing which is basically fun for about 2 minutes until you figure out how to win over anyone in about 3-4 tries. But uh...actually I stopped doing that when I realized that the fact that they liked me didn't really do anything since they didn't tell me anything new regardless. I guess they greeted me in a nicer tone?

    Eventually I was caught stealing a cabbage from some guy's house and forced to pay my bounty of 7 gold pieces (ouch) and I was then forcefully escorted to the castle to be searched. Actually it worked out quite well since I couldn't find the castle and this was a quick way to get there. I talked a couple more guards into liking me and bought some stuff from some orc woman. I even picked a hard lock in the warrior's guild for some crappy dagger replica and gems. I would have been impressed by the amount of things you could pick up and all that if I hadn't already got a lifetime's worth of that kind of gameplay from the early Ultima series. In fact, maybe we should just stick to sprites and 2d worlds for western RPGs until someone can make one that doesn't play like some clunky reject first person shooter (The first person mode is like Thief 3 revisited, and that is NOT a good thing).

    I really want to explore more of the game but I'm having trouble tricking myself into thinking it could get any better. I quit just before typing this up, and that was mainly because I couldn't move and I was getting frustrated. I picked up a tunic and I found that my legs had been magically bound to the floor. This is apparently the effect of being over-encumbered. No problem right? ...Wrong. There is no easy or quick way to drop anything, apparently. I learned this after clicking and dragging multiple times on apples and daggers in my inventory before they went bouncing all over the floor in no particular direction. After about a minute I was still over-encumbered, and considering I just stole a tunic from some guy's house I was trying to be quick and sneaking about it, but apparently the game's programming doesn't allow for that. "You can not drop the battle axe, there is no where to drop it." Oh? I can't drop it on this big open space on the ground right in front of me? Really? Okay, I'm done!
    Seriously, where did all this hype and praise come from?

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    What kind of system are you running it on?

    The game is very open-ended. I usually find the best experience is had when you follow a certain path, like the main quest, and along the way you encounter the NPCs who give you side quests to do. On your way to Anvil? Stop by Skingrad and spend hours and hours doing the sidequests and missions for the different guilds. Sure there are problems with the game (what game doesn't), but I think to enjoy this game you have to ignore some minor details. I understand you're coming from a different RPG background. This game would never sell in Japan, but give it a little more time.

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    My system isn't top of the line, but it would have been a few months ago. It doesn't really have any problems running the game on high video settings.

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    I have the 360 version (best looking 360 game besides GRAW right now), but I know there's some plugins for the PC version that improve texture quality at distances. You might want to check that out.

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