Stop whining!
Here's the facts, FFIX seems to get ALOT of crap put on it by people, they purposely post hate threads, our most recent thread is "I felt so dirty" by Cipher, he gave no real valid point in his first post, the other FFIX haters came in and started actually giving reasons, all of which were irrelevent. We should go through it all here. First FFIX is a reference/tribute post for all previous Final Fantasies, references can be found all over the place. Prince Puck attacked by Antlion, similar to Prince Edward attacked by Antlion in FFIV, you run a sidequest in Madain Sari, that tells you Garnet's birth name is Sarah, there is a Princess Sarah/Sara in FFI and FFIII. A Buster Sword in Lindblum does what Zidane comment about it sound familiar FFVII fans? Next, FFIX is ripped on by its characters.
Hater's Opinions
Zidane- a horny pimp monkey
Garnet- Eyecandy
Vivi- dumb kid
Steiner- a bumbling idiot
Eiko- Stupid brat
Quina- stupid and unnecessary
Freya- Sad
Armarant- Stupid personality
True Fact
Zidane- personality of a breathing male, who would have thought?
Garnet- Magic-based, troubling past, adds to story, personality of a diginfied lady, the main male character actually has to earn her love, not the other way around. For those of you who call her eye-candy, we're oh so sorry Square managed to create a girl hotter than Tifa without Tifa's breast.
Vivi- Overrated, questions existence but that's because he's worried about death, everyone worries about death.
Steiner- His loyality blinds his intellienge, c' mon he's been a knight a long time, the "I am only to follow my orders" kicks in after a while.
Eiko- Bratty, yes, most 6-year olds are.
Quina- Appearence is a reference to Gogo, personality doesn't develop, so what? S/he's actually optional, if you can find Fossil Roo by yourself.
Freya- You'd be sad too if your lover doesn't remember your name.
Armarant- Wow, someone in the game with a personality similar to Cloud and you don't like it. You just can't please people.
Now let's compare to FFVII and FFVIII, keep in mind, this doesn't mean we don't like FFVII and FFVIII, these are the things we don't like. Zidane acts like a normal single teenage male, as opposed to Cloud and Squall who act like males if males had periods. FFIX is regarded as linear, it's "GET KUJA!", excuse me, FFVII "GET SEPHIROTH!" c'mon people, FFVII and FFVIII are just as linear as FFIX. Garnet is eye-candy? Hello? People HELLO? Garnet has a lot more to offer than looks, 1) she's magic-based, 2) she has a troubling past that adds to the story, 3) her personality in secret she's full of doubt about herself and Zidane has to teach her self-esteem, 4) her lady personality vs. Zidane's male personality makes a beliveable love story, as opposed Tifa and Rinoa, please FFIX haters, tell us where Tifa or Rinoa have ever gone Lara Croft. The love story is believable because it's a guy hitting on a girl, as opposed to a girl hitting on a guy, the guy's personality changes to love her, but the girl really doesn't develop at all. And that's where the endings compare, we've seen FFIX haters say, "Yeah, Zidane banged Garnet and left her." Sorry, we both have a hard time believing that and if you think that's true, then we have the right to say, "Yeah, Cloud banged Tifa, and Tifa left him." or "Yeah, Squall banged Rinoa, and Rinoa left him for Sefier, then Sefier banged Rinoa, and Rinoa left him." For the love of Bahamut, Zidane & Garnet's story is alot more complicated than you FFIX haters make it out to be. Zidane's liking to Garnet is first in her looks[/fact] Zidane develops better feelings for Garnet actually getting to know her he falls in love with her for who she is truely, through their talks together and rescues together, and some reason the minor spats that go on continue to develop feelings more[/another fact] Zidane is also badly emotionally destroyed by the true of his birth, and his reason(according to Garland) for existence, Garnet is there to save as he has saved her in the past and help him through his personal crisis as he helps her through hers, giving him more developed feelings for her[/omg, yet another fact, there might actually be something to the Zidane & Garnet relationship]. Garnet is annoyed a tad by Zidane's corny jokes but is consistly moved by his want to help her for no reason, disc 2, Garnet in her mind misses Zidane, this lets her know she's in trouble, why? Since the day, because she has feared the idea of falling in love since the day Brahne ordered her horn be cut off. Let's face it, providing she fell in love with Zidane, Brahne would never let Zidane near Garnet due to his job, thief. A noblewoman and a commoner isn't this similar to her favorite story by Lord Avon? Brahne's death allows Garnet a blessing and curse because she couldn't just say she's developed feelings for Zidane, out of his want to help her through her crisis's. Something finally gives on Disc 3, maybe it was the fact that the castle was about to be destroyed and they believed it was about to be the end for them, maybe it was that this third rescue by Zidane confirmed to Garnet that he truly loves her, maybe it was I don't care anymore what people think, but the embrace that reveals the truth about how they feel about each other finally happens. By working together, they both developed feeling for each other which typical of developing a relationship, there's truely no real explanation for how true love is discovered. It's a one thing lead to other deal, where a new friendship by chance evolved into passionate relationship. And folks, just because we just completely dennounced the "Yeah, Zidane banged Garnet and left her." theory, doesn't mean Zidane & Garnet never have sex, no, it would be a natural thing for them to lose virginities to each other(YES, WE SAID THEY LOSE VIRGINITIES TO EACH OTHER as in Zidane is Garnet's first, Garnet is Zidane's first), married. Now to compare with FFVII and FFVIII, Cloud & Squall have Tifa & Rinoa hitting on them, since when do girls hit on guys? We see no change in Tifa's nor Rinoa's personalities at all. It's a technological era in these games too, in FFIX, omg, women who want to be treated with diginity and respect. And there's a difference between Garnet and Tifa & Rinoa, Garnet is naive, Tifa & Rinoa are naive and stupid. Garnet is smart enough to have a teammate, the only person in the party who wants her to return to Alexandria, Steiner to come along, where Rinoa walks up to Edea alone all nervous because hopefully she just realized how stupid her idea is, if the item she going to use on Edea actually worked, why wouldn't anyone else have tried it already? Rinoa launches a dog out of her arm, it looks like the dog's sticking his ass in Rinoa's face. And speaking of Limit Breaks, Omnislash and Lionheart made FFVII and FFVIII unbelievable easy, you could kill Sephiroth in like 2 rounds. Where Trance doesn't give Zidane a move that does 20 slashes of 9999 damage, omg, what a concept a game that reverts back to actually being challenging. The battle system sucks? The battle system is meant for people who bought Final Fantasy before spiky-haired PMSer was on the cover. The game is linear? What's your point? All Final Fantasies are linear. Only bad point is the amount of time at the end, it's like a year to most, well, we believe Square slipped here, with how deep Zidane & Garnet's love is, it wouldn't have taken a year for him to reunite with her, better move, a month, Garnet's hair still growing back or stay short, and no Vivi kids(because that makes no sense anyway), because it would still take a while for Zidane to reunite with Garnet, considering there's one way back to Mist Continent, the boat in Madain Sari, because the Outer Continent's opening of Fossil Roo stays closed, but that's how we feel the story should go. FFIX haters, please free to try to dennounce what we have said here. We'll just keep bouncing back by dennouncing you back with facts; otherwise, get out of this thread and get out of this forum.
--Zidane & Garnet, VIVA LA GAIA!
