Yes, but if you need it use it. It's just a game.
Yes, but if you need it use it. It's just a game.
It's more than a game :twak:Originally Posted by Shiny_Griever
Strategy guides should ONLY be used when you're COMPLETELY stuck, besides that, do everything you have to do on your own, sheeesh don't you wanna FEEL like you're the protagonist??? Don't you want the rush???
Some people play the game because it is a mere game, (and just a game, so don't get all uptight about it). I remind you that Final Fantasy is not a religion to everyone.
I pity those people who think that FF isn't a religion.
i have Brady game guides for:
* Final Fantasy VIII...for boss fights - never. most often a useful item when i need instructions, but that's all.
* Final Fantasy X...i use this only for bribery costs, celestial weapons or how to acquire advanced Aeons.
* Final Fantasy X-2...i looked through it, but never used it. my brother owns it actually, so it's not really mine.
What a waste of money... All that can be found here within an hour.
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
you know technically the game itself is a waste of money because it serves no real purpose. And I mean yeah you can get all this info online, but nothing compares to having charts down in front of you. I could find a skills chart for Tales of Symphonia somewhere online, but nothing is as easy as flipping to the charts in the guide as I play and approach a level where I learn a new skill.What a waste of money... All that can be found here within an hour.
THE JACKEL
Or on GameFAQs within 30 seconds.
The game serves the purpose of entertaining and passing time. If you want it "down in front of you" you can just print it out.
Anyway, as for the initial question...I don't think it's necessarily "cheating"...I just think it defeats the purpose of playing the game to begin with. You may as well just go on the internet and read a summary, saving yourself the time and money. I do however buy the strategy guides, but for collection purposes and not for use to beat the game.
I do take a look at the guides and faqs under only two circumstances: if I'm absolutely stuck I'll look at that specific part and what I have to do, and if I've already beaten the game and I want to do everything I didn't do the first time around. Aside of that, I see no reason to ruin my gaming experience because I'm too lazy to actually play the game...I'd just rather not get the game instead.
I like Kung-Fu.
well I suppose if that's the purpose of the game, and the person is still entertained and passing time with the guide, then they're getting what they wanted to out of it, and no I wouldn't consider that cheating. Cheating in a game to me, is something like having a "cheat" code or what not. Having an unfair advantage. And like I said before, no matter what a guide tells you, for a lot of games, if you're not good enough to actually do it, it does nothing for you.
THE JACKEL
A guide does create that.Having an unfair advantage.
THE JACKAL
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
you left out my part after that that said, as I have said, no matter what a guide tells you, if you're not good enough, the guide does nothing. It doesn't create and unfair advantage. I don't know a single guide that does. An unfair advantage in the game? if something was programmed into the game, nothing you can aquire in the game is unfair, so if the guide tells you where to get it, that's not unfair. I mean, then I suppose everytime you replay a game you have an unfair advantage and you're cheating. It's not unfair, it's perfectly fair.A guide does create that.Having an unfair advantage.
THE JACKAL
THE JACKEL
Well the good thing about some guides is that they have maps as telling you where to go. That's really one of the only reasons I have the guides in the first place. The problem with FAQs on the internet, while useful, and have loads of information, is that they regurgitate the same information over and over, and not much else. You just find the first one, and BAM you're done, or if you have patience, then you find the best written one that is most appealing to your eyes.
Now I understand why my cousin PAID me to take his FFIX guide from him. Lack of maps == bad. Anything that redirects you to get more information from the internet, is like saying "don't buy us, we don't need the money", even if they are supporting an online partner.
Good point. But since you know where to get it, it makes you not waste as much time, scrambling around trying to look for anything extra, but it's really a trade; EXP, or item that helps you in battle? Just collect everything, and move on. Yes, it's in the game, but most people skip that stuff, because it's not readily visible, or they haven't heard about it.you left out my part after that that said, as I have said, no matter what a guide tells you, if you're not good enough, the guide does nothing. It doesn't create and unfair advantage. I don't know a single guide that does. An unfair advantage in the game? if something was programmed into the game, nothing you can aquire in the game is unfair, so if the guide tells you where to get it, that's not unfair. I mean, then I suppose everytime you replay a game you have an unfair advantage and you're cheating. It's not unfair, it's perfectly fair.
Get guide Not get guide
Know where everything is Have to search
Head directly to item Head in circles, get in battle
Head to next item Get item
Fight battle Fight battle
Leave Area Skip item, head to next area
But yes, if you DO suck at games, then a guide telling you how to prepare for the battle will not help at all. I see guides as convenience, but for the walkthrough part (unless stuck beyond circumstances, like not having MP and Ethers), you have to earn it, but there's not really anything wrong with asking for help.
Yes, but you're ruining it. It's like eating a big dinner out at a nice restaurant, but wearing a piece of plastic over your tongue so you can't taste any of it. Sure the food is still nourishing you, which is the food's initial purpose, but why bother spending the money to eat at a nice place with good tastey food when you could just stay home and eat that canned stuff in the back of your pantry that no one ever touches because it's gross? You can't taste it anyway, so what's the point in wasting that time and money?well I suppose if that's the purpose of the game, and the person is still entertained and passing time with the guide, then they're getting what they wanted to out of it, and no I wouldn't consider that cheating. Cheating in a game to me, is something like having a "cheat" code or what not. Having an unfair advantage. And like I said before, no matter what a guide tells you, for a lot of games, if you're not good enough to actually do it, it does nothing for you.
THE JACKAL
It's more or less the same principle.
I like Kung-Fu.
isn't the purpose of a game to bring enjoyment to the player? If the player enjoys playing the game even with the strategy guide, then it isn't really ruining it for them is it?
THE JACKEL
I think every guide I've ever bought was for artwork or stuff of the like. There was also a time when I was making my own Guides, so I would buy them and correct them... you would be suprised what those "guide gurus" miss most of the time.
Most games these days have a ton of stuff in them that you wouldn't be able to figure out on your own. If you want to do everything there is to do you have to get some help from somewhere. If they buy the guide and use it as a walkthrough, then yeah, that's probably cheating. But most games, you have to do that with. There's a lot of stuff where if you miss it. You're screwed. And not everyone wants to play every game twice. I'd play through by myself, and then go back and get stuff. But if you can't do that. Screw it. Either I'm using a guide, or I'll just not be a completionist. I hate games like that. But I think they're made that way on purpose so you'd be more inclined to get a guide and therefor spend more money
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