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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
    Yes, lets all rush out right now to by a game we dont like! People dont by games they dont like, get over it. It in no way means there fanboys/girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
    Quote Originally Posted by ZidaneAndGarnet
    Zidane: I don't understand how a list of sales figures has anything to do with it.
    Putting them in for factual refrence before the "FFX sold a zillion copies!" thing pops up. I would think sales figures of the final fantasy games would have alot todo with the vs thing, seeing how 7 is offically the best selling RPG of all time, ff8 outsold 10, and 9 was between X and X-2 with both 11 and 6 and prior under X-2. Trends shows How the series last peeked at 7 and sales figures has FALLEN with each game after 7 with a return in X's figures that still didnt beat its two predisesors VII and VIII.
    And you're completely ignorant of the whole point. The game made money. Square Enix is a business. Businesses are out to make money. Thus the game achieved the goal, and did a damn good job of it. No one said that makes it better than anything else, and all those (mostly false) sales figures for those (crappy) games you listed are completely irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMKA
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    Zidane: I don't understand how a list of sales figures has anything to do with it.
    Putting them in for factual refrence before the "FFX sold a zillion copies!" thing pops up. I would think sales figures of the final fantasy games would have alot todo with the vs thing, seeing how 7 is offically the best selling RPG of all time, ff8 outsold 10, and 9 was between X and X-2 with both 11 and 6 and prior under X-2. Trends shows How the series last peeked at 7 and sales figures has FALLEN with each game after 7 with a return in X's figures that still didnt beat its two predisesors VII and VIII.
    And you're completely ignorant of the whole point. The game made money. Square Enix is a business. Businesses are out to make money. Thus the game achieved the goal, and did a damn good job of it. No one said that makes it better than anything else, and all those (mostly false) sales figures for those (crappy) games you listed are completely irrelevant.

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    If there crappy and outsold X that must make it balls then. Second, the figures are not false. stamp and scream all you like.

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    Hey Wuggly, can you site a source for the figures you got?

    And also, spam posts by you ZidaneGarnet and overall personal attacking are NOT permitted. Don't let me see it again.

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    Zidane: That's incredible...I have no idea what you just said. Get over it, FF sequels are bad ideas, FF sequels are best left to fan fiction authors for everyone to come up with what they believe happened. Sales figures don't make a game or a sequel. It's the reaction people give it after it is sold, and I've noticed alot of people saying they should have left the reunion of Tidus and Yuna to fan fiction authors. What? How are we spaming? Wiggly's attacking us for saying sales figures don't matter and they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
    If there crappy and outsold X that must make it balls then. Second, the figures are not false. stamp and scream all you like.
    You didn't read my post...I just said the sales figures DON'T make a game better than others.

    And even still, numbers that you just pulled out of your ass have no significance here.
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    Yeah, and those games have been out how much longer than FFX/X-2?

    You fail at arguing the point that wasn't even being made by anyone other than yourself to begin with. Thanks for playing. I'll say it one more time, in bold text for you: I never claimed that sales make a game better than another game that sold less than it; you did.
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    I dont think its spread over time, I think its calculated more fair then that.
    P.S quit being obnoxious, Im really not impressed. I cant stop people starting arguments nor would I want to but it would be a great aid if you didnt search the forums looking to start a spam fight.

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    You didn't read my post...I just said the sales figures DON'T make a game better than others.

    And even still, those figures you posted are crap anyway.
    Zidane: Yet another QFFT. Sales figures are completely meaningless, it's what the people think of a game after they buy that determines whether or not it's good. FFX-2 pulls away from classic FFs, but that doesn't annoy me about it. Garnie and I bought it even though we didn't care much for FFX, and when we played it, THAT'S when we didn't like it, the annoying personality changes, the way things went in Spira, the Calm Lands becoming an amusement park, Zanarkand becoming a tourist attraction, one of the best parts of FFX, Blitzball, was badly warped. So now, even though with the game stinks to us, because of the changes for the worst, you expect us to call it good, just because its sales figures are higher than our favorite games? No, I'll stick with underrated low quality (cuz' that's what the sales figures say) FFIX. You can't tell me to say a game is good just because of how well it sells on the market, I have to play it myself to determine whether or not IMHO it's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
    I dont think its spread over time, I think its calculated more fair then that.
    P.S quit being obnoxious, Im really not impressed. I cant stop people starting arguments nor would I want to but it would be a great aid if you didnt search the forums looking to start a spam fight.
    I'm not being obnoxious. You're the one who's saying people are saying things they didn't. And I've no idea what you're talking about after than.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go pick up KH2 and quit focusing on troll posts.
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    They asked a classic vs modern FF and I merely gave figures to back what final fantasy stastically are better in sales, before you launched your pointless attack. From what Ive seen it seems to be a habbit with you DMKA. And now this topic has become truely derailed.

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    Zidane: Actually it is not derailed, the fact is it's what people think of a game that makes it popular, not sales. FFX-2 vs. classics, that's what we're talking about, if you buy a game and EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD buys and everyone hates it but you, sales figures can only serve as an excuse to say it must be good, when to most it is not. If FFX-2 WAS OVERWHELMING WITH POPULARITY, I still would not say it's better than the classics, I've always found the classics to be better no matter what polls or sales figures say.

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    I agree with you on that one Zidane, I love 6 but I also love 5, not very graphic... *cough* but that doesnt matter, its will written and developed for me, and I enjoy the soundtrack. even 2 has its charms.

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