Good times
I'am lol lvl 61 now hit it today this topic is for taking some pictures and showing some good times in FF11 this is one of mine in romora server of my mate ben soloing the NM for LB2 with a lvl 75 whm subbed with ninja lvl 37 with a kraken club and another club ^^ it was good to watch he killed all 3 of them for me pretty damn well fast as well
Funny how some people like to say XXX job can't do XXX thing. I love to see stuff like this. WHM/NIN is a phenominal soloer. They have so much working for them aside from shadows. Stoneskin, Blink, Flash, Haste as well as givens like Protect and Shell and the ability to cast -na spells on themselves and weaken the mobs DEF with Dia.
Most of the time when people say XXX job can't solo it's because it takes that job more than 2 minutes to kill the mob. Umm... so what? If you are any of a huge list of other melee jobs you can't solo DC-VT mobs at all at 75 and EPs at 75 will give you a run for your money. It might take us a little while but mages can outsolo most melees (except NIN/RDM).
<3 seeing stuff like this. Thanks for posting some good times.
when I completed the second Hat quest ^_^
It just felt good to get it over and done with.
ps: you look to be doing awesomely.
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thanks try post some pics ^^ even tho i'am not a mage guy i love the fact they can solo stuff and i bet u right one day they will out beat us DD
They already do ^.~ Sure melees can hold their own pretty well against certain mobs and usually EPs but at 75 most mages can far outsolo melees. It might take a while but certain jobs just have the ability to last forever most specifically RDM/NIN. WHM/NIN and BRD/NIN and just a tad behind that. BLMs can kill VTs-ITs and do it very quickly solo.
BTW... yesterday me and my wife duo'd Temenos-East and got 6 ABCs and her Diabolic Silk. Just waiting until the next tally so she can get her AF+1 hat for BLM. I wish I'd taken more FRAPs. Nothing like taking out an area meant for 18 people with only 2 and coming out with better loot than you would in a full group.
cool ^^
Lol the problem with WHM is that once our MP runs out, its kinda gonna go downhill from there unforunetly...x-x I dont know about BRD since i dont level it that high but i bet its to do with Ballad and alot of Sleep.
Melee can solo alot of crap i feel if they put their mind to it, NIN is definetly one of the more powerful soloers that do not need a mage sub of any kind to perform well and can pull in decent exp. DRG/mage is very powerful especially after lvl 60 soloing, before i am sure they can duo or trio pretty damn well if they know what they are doing. THF with NIN sub and bolts are just plain overpowered, and i can bet that a DRK/mage sub with the right management of mp and mob opponent, can surivive pretty damn well as well. PLD/mage is also possible to survive by lasting long enough as well. It greatly depends on your opponent, but with the right gear, sub, and the abiliity to make the right choices, some jobs are potentially more powerful than one might think. Nevermind BST rofl.
Well the Sleep + buffs crap sucks. It's a horrible way for BRD to solo. BRD/WHM and even BRD/RDM suck.
Actually the way a BRD solos is BRD/NIN. There are a lot of things that allow us to solo pretty well and live forever which basically skirts the issue that WHMs have. We have no MP so Ballad isn't an issue. If we get hit (which we shouldn't) we can always do 2xPaeon for pretty nice regen with zero cost.
For actual fighting I prefer not using Paeons. If it's a DCish mob I'll use Evasion+Haste songs in addition to Elegy (Slow on steroids) and I can easily keep shadows up. Depending on the type of mob (like a MNK mob) I just play different songs to help me either melee harder or keep shadows up better.
Keep in mind that BRD has no inherent MP and that songs cost nothing so I can never run out of songs the way a WHM can run out of MP for cures and regen. We have many songs that facilitate soloing like Finale (Dispel) and Requiem makes for a little extra DoT though nothing substantial. Worst case scenario we can sleep mobs if we have to but usually it's not an issue.
The other huge plus that makes us slightly more powerful that RDM/NIN in certain situations is the fact that song are not interuptable. We could sleep 20 links and when they wake up we don't have to worry about our sleep being interupted before we resleep them.
NIN/RDM is a phenominal soloer but there's the issue of MP so NINs cannot take links.
RDM/NIN can stay up for quite a while and pretty much take anything with well timed converts and such but they can still have their MP outlasted by a mob. RDM is the good soloer they are because they can kill at a decent pace.
However, when it comes to endurace BRD/NIN is probably at the top being only limited by Shihei as to how long they can stay up. A second close might be RDM/SMN and so long as they take it slow, safe, and easy (no high cost Bloodpacts) they can time their Converts out long enough to basically never run out of MP in a really long fight with just Carby whackin' away.
The downside to both of these is the fairly limited damage potential and while I could potentially tank an IT mob all freakin' day... it'll take me quite a while to actually kill it even if I am spamming Evisceration. Same with a RDM/SMN. As soon as they start putting out damage with a stronger avatar or decen Carby BPs they are running out of the MP it takes to keep them alive faster than they can convert.
PLD/NIN works wonders. =) I can pretty much skill up any weapon I can to 210 by myself, haven't tried steelshells on my own yet though.
WHM/NIN is very awesome too, I was skilling up with one in Boyhada on steelshells. =)
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
WHM/NINs rape people in ballista. xD
The difference between BRD and some other jobs that I've talked to even such as my WAR/NIN friend is that we can take EPs all day long no problem. I honestly skilled up my staff a long time ago from around 150-180 being mostly afk in Kuftal.
I just found EP robber crabs, engage, sing Paeon+Madrigal and go afk for a bit... ocassionally walk back by to hit my macros and keep my songs up or engage a new crab whilst my big beefy WAR/NIN friend says after he takes an most EP mobs he's having to rest for several minutes afterward and usually has lowish HP.
The problem here is that even against EPs as I'm sure most any melee/NIN can attest... Shadow timers are just too long. You are just in to take some hits here or there. PLD/NIN has the definite saving grace of Flash to earn them a few seconds here and there to either throw shadows back on or save themselves from hits. Most jobs have something like this such as a SAM/NIN having Third Eye for essentially an extra shadow every minute.
The point here is that unless you can slow your mob or haste yourself (which BRD/NIN, WHM/NIN, and RDM/NIN all can) you will get hit and most melees (obviously not including DRK and PLD) have no way to heal themselves so this actually becomes quite a problem.
Whereas most melee jobs would be happy to solo harder EPs while /NIN these mage jobs actually excel at it beyond what a melee is capable and can solo much harder mobs. I can eat Steelshells (DC-EM or maybe T at 75) for breakfast but I know for a fact that I couldn't do this if I didn't have some combination of March, Mambo and Carnage Elegy. My Eva is just too low... as low as most melees. NIN and THF have the benefit of high evasion by 40-50 points over the average melee.
Some of the really impressive stuff is watching a WHM take out really rough mobs. I saw a nice video a while back of an Elvaan WHM/NIN tearing up a VT skeleton in KRT. Granted he had Elvaan STR, VIT and HP and a Kraken Club but it's still quite an awesome thing to watch.
To everyone that says WHM/BRD/RDM/XXXjob takes too long soloing... shame on you. Sure it took Avesta 2hrs to solo Genbu BUT!!! it was possible. It would take me an inordinant amount of time to solo VT mobs to the point that I know it's pointless but when it comes down to it a BRD/NIN could take an NM much higher than themselves solo while the melees that think they own me would only stand up for moments before collapsing in a whimper.
P.S. Derailed thread ftw!!! I hope we make another one. I've been wishing we'd have a nice pic thread to pair up with our recent accomplishments thread. I love seeing what other people are doing in their adventures ^^
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