Well i agree with you for the most part but I dont think whining about the whiners is going to change anything and it also makes you a bit of a hypocrite. If people dislike a game and have reasons why i think they should be allowed to state their opinion as long as it is in an intellegent way and they dont make fun of others who do not share their view. If you have a problem with whinners you can usually tell what threads they will be in because the threads will have names like "Why this game sucked" or "Why this character sucked", just dont enter these threads and you will only find the occasional whinner in other threads and this is the great thing, your not required to read their posts you can just skip over them. My advice dont let the whiners get to you because every interent forum has them and your bound to run into them everywhere in life (especially if you work in a job with customer service).