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    Default FF VII will beat them all?

    I call for a deathmatch between the characters of FFVII(except Cait Sith, no offence, kitty) and FFcharacters of another Final Fantasy.^^I already started with FFVII vs. FFX, so here we'll continue with

    FFVII vs. FFIX

    Cloud vs. Zidane
    Vincent vs. Amarant
    Cid vs. Freya
    Aeris vs. Garnet
    Yuffie vs. Eiko
    Barret vs. Steiner
    Tifa vs. Vivi
    Red XIII vs. Quina

    Who will win? Your comments decide.

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    My Big winners:

    Cloud vs. Zidane: Cloud
    Vincent vs. Amarant: Vincent
    Cid vs. Freya: Freya
    Aeris vs. Garnet: Garnet
    Yuffie vs. Eiko: Yuffie
    Barret vs. Steiner: Tough one, I'd go fo Seifer if Vivi was with him, if not Barret would win
    Tifa vs. Vivi: hmmm also a tough one, I think Tifa
    Red XIII vs. Quina: Quina if he/she learnd a lot of good stuff
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    Zidane: This is without materia, which is a disadvantage to FFVII, FFIX when a ability is learned it's permamently on an FFIX character.

    Cloud vs. Zidane - Zidane is quick enough to couter Omnislash
    Vincent vs. Amarant - either way.
    Cid vs. Freya - Freya actually Jumps
    Aeris vs. Garnet - Aerith wouldn't stand a chance trpped in an arena against the Dagger herself, he'd be screaming for Cloud to help her. No Summon or Magic materia, , Garnet can naturally summon.
    Yuffie vs. Eiko - Yuffie is just sad.
    Barret vs. Steiner - Barret can overpower the Rusty man, but Steiner would give him a run for his gil.
    Tifa vs. Vivi - Tifa could probably punch Vivi faster than he could cast
    Red XIII vs. Quina - either way

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    Cloud VS Zidane: Cloud - Zidane can only achieved 9999 Max HP, while Omnislash hit for 15 damage, which can destroy Zidane easily. Cloud is cooler than Zidane and his Ultima Weapon is better than Zidane's Ultima Weapon. Zidane's Grand Lethal is pathetic.

    Vincent VS Amarant - Vincent, Chaos can eliminate him in second.

    Cid VS Freya - Cid, Highwind can penetrate Freya. Dragon Crest wasn't that bad.

    Aeris Vs Garnet - Garnet is weak, Aeris somehow can stand a chance with her, her Seal Evil should stop Garnet from healing, I give Aeris KotR secretly . I choose Garnet on this.

    Yuffie VS Eiko - Eiko wouldn't stand a chance against an active and dextrous woman.

    Barret VS Steiner - Catastrophe win, the dust man will not stand a chance.

    Tifa VS Vivi - Before Vivi can even cast magic, Tifa will kick his butt off, though Vivi is my favourite.

    Red XIII VS Quina - I support Red, He strong mentally and physically, while Quina is careless and stupid, his/her blue magic is strong, she will win if she keep doing Auto-Life, But Red XIII Cosmo Memory is my memory!

    Beatrix VS Cait Sith - Beatrix though Cait Sith might stand a chance if he can do instant death attack.

    Sephiroth VS Kuja - Super Nova vs Ultima? I wonder who will win? For Me, I choose Sephiroth.

    I a FFVII fanboy though FFIX is my favourite forever.

    Why isn't FFVIII isn't here, at least both of the greatest FF can give good match.

    Go!!!! FFVII

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    you people have to put things in perspective. The reason characters have moves that do so much damage is because the enemy has so much health, and to make you think you're awesome. I mean, they could reduce the enemies health down to 9999, but in that case you'd do like, 50 damage each hit max to make it interesting. SO you can't say, well he does 9999 damage 15 times, because that's just absurd. I mean, he has to take the damage to get the limit break first, and to get the full limit he needs to take more than 9999 damage total without dieing, and I'm gonna guess that this is with the characters basic abilities, otherwise it'd take forever, so in that case every FF9 character wins because of their abilities that actually make them different, while the FF7 characters are only different cause of limit breaks, i mean honestly, that's it.....

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    Zidane: I still say Zidane could counter Omnislash, like Seifer countered Zantetsuken.

    you people have to put things in perspective. The reason characters have moves that do so much damage is because the enemy has so much health, and to make you think you're awesome. I mean, they could reduce the enemies health down to 9999, but in that case you'd do like, 50 damage each hit max to make it interesting. SO you can't say, well he does 9999 damage 15 times, because that's just absurd. I mean, he has to take the damage to get the limit break first, and to get the full limit he needs to take more than 9999 damage total without dieing, and I'm gonna guess that this is with the characters basic abilities, otherwise it'd take forever, so in that case every FF9 character wins because of their abilities that actually make them different, while the FF7 characters are only different cause of limit breaks, i mean honestly, that's it.....

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    I'm holding these to the fantastical realism standards I used to use when I was still doing the Grand Tournament.

    Cloud vs. Zidane

    Winner: Zidane

    Zidane is a dagger wielder and he moves way too fast for Cloud's massive sword to reach. While Cloud moves quickly in Advent Children, assuming an equal level of growth and prowess Zidane would be moving faster still, and Cloud's weapon is just too damn big for him to get in a decent hit on Zidane. It might take Zidane quite a bit of time using hit and run tactics, but he wins out overall.

    Vincent vs. Amarant

    Vincent. Gun wounds are brutal and Amarant's close range focus and limited throw range make him an easy target for successive sniping by Vincent.

    Cid vs. Freya

    Freya. This one is a judgement by world and by apparent training. Freya is a warrior trained exclusively in the use of a spear. Cid is a pilot who happens to know how to use a Spear.

    Aeris vs. Garnet

    I'm going with Garnet on this one because she is a natural summoner. Aeris can have summon materia equipped, yes, but I'm going to give it to Garnet given that Garnet's ability to summon is limited only to her MP.

    Yuffie vs. Eiko

    Eiko. Ninja tricks pale in comparison to the Holy spell and Eiko's own Eidolons.

    Barret vs. Steiner

    Barret. Bullets have the force and propulsion to penetrate heavier armor, and have greater range than Steiner's sword. Not to mention the fact that Steiner is too slow to get close enough to Barret to do any damage.

    Tifa vs. Vivi

    Vivi. If a warrior faces a spellcaster and both go all-out, the spellcaster will win simply because they have a much higher damage output, range, and variety between their attacks. The limits of a spellcaster is that they have a limited MP which forces you to use it sparingly in normal battles. In this case, Vivi would drain all of his MP to win, and Tifa wouldn't stand a chance.

    Red XIII vs. Quina

    This is an interesting one but I'm going to give it to Red XIII, because he's a lot faster than Quina is. Quina's Blue Magic is potent, but with Red XIII's own magical prowess and sheer speed he would win out eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behold the Void
    I'm holding these to the fantastical realism standards I used to use when I was still doing the Grand Tournament.

    Cloud vs. Zidane

    Winner: Zidane

    Zidane is a dagger wielder and he moves way too fast for Cloud's massive sword to reach. While Cloud moves quickly in Advent Children, assuming an equal level of growth and prowess Zidane would be moving faster still, and Cloud's weapon is just too damn big for him to get in a decent hit on Zidane. It might take Zidane quite a bit of time using hit and run tactics, but he wins out overall.

    Vincent vs. Amarant

    Vincent. Gun wounds are brutal and Amarant's close range focus and limited throw range make him an easy target for successive sniping by Vincent.

    Cid vs. Freya

    Freya. This one is a judgement by world and by apparent training. Freya is a warrior trained exclusively in the use of a spear. Cid is a pilot who happens to know how to use a Spear.

    Aeris vs. Garnet

    I'm going with Garnet on this one because she is a natural summoner. Aeris can have summon materia equipped, yes, but I'm going to give it to Garnet given that Garnet's ability to summon is limited only to her MP.

    Yuffie vs. Eiko

    Eiko. Ninja tricks pale in comparison to the Holy spell and Eiko's own Eidolons.

    Barret vs. Steiner

    Barret. Bullets have the force and propulsion to penetrate heavier armor, and have greater range than Steiner's sword. Not to mention the fact that Steiner is too slow to get close enough to Barret to do any damage.

    Tifa vs. Vivi

    Vivi. If a warrior faces a spellcaster and both go all-out, the spellcaster will win simply because they have a much higher damage output, range, and variety between their attacks. The limits of a spellcaster is that they have a limited MP which forces you to use it sparingly in normal battles. In this case, Vivi would drain all of his MP to win, and Tifa wouldn't stand a chance.

    Red XIII vs. Quina

    This is an interesting one but I'm going to give it to Red XIII, because he's a lot faster than Quina is. Quina's Blue Magic is potent, but with Red XIII's own magical prowess and sheer speed he would win out eventually.
    About Cloud VS Zidane:
    I disagree, the hit rate Omnislash can does is high, it's impossible to avoid, Zidane is pathetic.

    About Cid VS Freya:
    hm, I might reconsider this...

    Yuffie VS Eiko:
    hm, this is one is tough, Yuffie have a high evade rate and very fast, while Eiko's magic is strong, In FFIX, you can avoid magic, so Yuffie is teh best choice, summon isn't a factor, Eiko's summon is pathetic, Garnet summon is the best (I prefer Yuna).

    Tifa VS Vivi:
    Tifa will win, Tifa is a fighter, fighter use less MP. Fighter attack are pretty decent, so Tifa can stilll strike Vivi easily.

    this fight is boring, I want FFVII VS FFVIII !!!

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    Cloud vs. Zidane-Omnislash can bust Zidane's butt anytime,anywhere.
    Vincent vs. Amarant-Hey,one can transform,the other's just a normal human.
    Cid vs. Freya-Freya jumps so high that Cid can only stand on earth waiting to be speared.
    Aeris vs. Garnet-Draw.Aeris' Seal Evil can silence enemies therefore making Garnet unable to summon Eidolons.Unless Garnet attacks before she does,which kills Aeris instantly,no sweat.Though Aeris' my favourite.
    Yuffie vs. Eiko-C'mon,could there even be any match between these two?
    Barret vs. Steiner-Steiner's Shock never works against Barret's catastrophic attacks.
    Tifa vs. Vivi-I want to see Tifa kick Vivi's butt and it's reality because Tifa can surely attack before Vivi can cast any magic.
    Red XIII vs. Quina-No comment.

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    Everybody here says about Cloud vs Zidane:

    Cloud will win. But that's all because of his Omnislash. Cloud using Omnislash or Zidane's Grand Lethal? Think about it.

    I never seen Omnislash, so excuse me if I'm wrong, but for using Omnislash, Cloud needs to come close to Zidane, while Grand Lethal is a long rage attack. So ehm, in this case, I think Zidane would win.

    And what if your holy awesome Cloud (which I mean sarcastic) doesn't have his uber-powerful Omnislash?

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    First off to ViVi Ultima, the Grand Lethal of Zidane is also unavoidable. Seeing how they will both reach Limit and trance around the same time, its probably safe to assume Omni Slash and Grand Lethal will go off at the same time. And Grand LEthal doesn't need to be close range. So as long as Zidane keeps his distance, Grand Lethal would hit Cloud taking him out before Zidane was hit with Omnislash.

    Cloud vs. Zidane - Zidane for above Explanation

    Vincent vs. Amarant - Hard one. Seeing Amarant move around he would be a difficult target for Vincing, and if He got close enough Vincint would get his but kicked. And with Amarants own throwing abilities and some of his moves Like Chakra I'd have to give it to Amamant, but not by a lot.

    Cid vs. Freya - I love Cid, but its got to go to Freya. Here ablities naturally seem more impressive then Cid's.
    Aeris vs. Garnet - Garnet. Garnet has while they both have powerful healing, Garnet seems like a stronger summoner, which appears to be the best way to decide that battle since physically they both suck.

    Yuffie vs. Eiko - Yuffie. While Eiko does have Holy, he can't take much of a hit, and would probably be forced you use to much MP to heal herself, plus she's just a little girl whose experience pales in comparason to an expert Ninja's.

    Barret vs. Steiner - barret. He's got auto-guns man.

    Tifa vs. Vivi - ViVi. Tifa would fall before the might of Flare.

    Red XIII vs. Quina - Sadly I say Quina. It has the advantage of Auto-life and quickly following up with Limit Gauntlet, which by the time it hits that point I'll almost Garuntee REd will have taking quite a bit of a beating as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elpizo
    Everybody here says about Cloud vs Zidane:

    Cloud will win. But that's all because of his Omnislash. Cloud using Omnislash or Zidane's Grand Lethal? Think about it.

    I never seen Omnislash, so excuse me if I'm wrong, but for using Omnislash, Cloud needs to come close to Zidane, while Grand Lethal is a long rage attack. So ehm, in this case, I think Zidane would win.

    And what if your holy awesome Cloud (which I mean sarcastic) doesn't have his uber-powerful Omnislash?
    Zidane: We can use more people that think like you, Elpizo, Omnislash is pathetic anyway, it makes FFVII way too easy. Cloud would get his ass handed to him by Zidane, Zidane is too smart to stand still long enough for Cloud to get close to him, and Limit Breaks last one turn, Trance lasts multiple turns; therefore, Zidane cast Grand Lethal even as Cloud tries the Omnislash, Cloud takes 9999 damage and falls, Cloud got pwnd, if Cloud keeps coming, Zidane moves out of the way, casts Grand Lethal again, uber-PWND.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZidaneAndGarnet
    Quote Originally Posted by Elpizo
    Everybody here says about Cloud vs Zidane:

    Cloud will win. But that's all because of his Omnislash. Cloud using Omnislash or Zidane's Grand Lethal? Think about it.

    I never seen Omnislash, so excuse me if I'm wrong, but for using Omnislash, Cloud needs to come close to Zidane, while Grand Lethal is a long rage attack. So ehm, in this case, I think Zidane would win.

    And what if your holy awesome Cloud (which I mean sarcastic) doesn't have his uber-powerful Omnislash?
    Zidane: We can use more people that think like you, Elpizo, Omnislash is pathetic anyway, it makes FFVII way too easy. Cloud would get his ass handed to him by Zidane, Zidane is too smart to stand still long enough for Cloud to get close to him, and Limit Breaks last one turn, Trance lasts multiple turns; therefore, Zidane cast Grand Lethal even as Cloud tries the Omnislash, Cloud takes 9999 damage and falls, Cloud got pwnd, if Cloud keeps coming, Zidane moves out of the way, casts Grand Lethal again, uber-PWND.
    Thank you. First time anyone on this forum says I'm of any use.

    I think Zidane can cast Grand Lethal 3 times before his Trance stops.
    The only problem is that Grand Lethal takes a lot of MP. Not that I don't like that. cause otherwise, the game would get a bit to easy...
    Grand Lethal was great when I battled the Ark in FF IX, disk 3.

    But oh, I don't think CLoud can take more than one or max two Grand Lethals anyway.
    His max HP is 9999, right?

    And anotehr thing, which might be wrong, correct me if it is.
    But Omnislash is only very good if Cloud is at lv 99.
    It can kill Safer Sephiroth with way to much ease. Not in one hit, of course, but still so much to make Sephiroth 'THE' uber-cool villain ever, a wimp. But that's only when you are at lv 99...

    I don't see Grand Lethal doing so much Damage to Necorn that the battle suddenly becomes very easy. But that's what makes the battles in IX so fun.
    I never cared about Limit Breaks. I rather have Trance.

    But I think I'm going off-topic.

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    Forgot abouts Airis and Garnet, I'll give it to Garnet

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    Here's the Current standings

    Cloud Vs. Zidane: 4 - 4 Tie
    Vincent Vs. Amarant: 4 - 1 Vincent
    Cid Vs. Freya: 5 - 1 Freya
    Aeris Vs. Garnet: 5 - 0 Garnet
    Yuffie Vs. Eiko: 4 - 3 Yuffie
    Barret Vs. Steiner: 6 - 0 Steiner
    Tifa Vs. ViVi: 5 - 2 Tifa
    Red XIII Vs. Quina: 2 -2 Tie

    Please correct any mistakes i probably made

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