Japaneses hate Europeans...

[Dreddz]

Probably the only reason Europeans don't recieve some games is because Europeans use PAL and Japan uses NTSC which is the same thing that U.S. uses as well. So I guess it's easier for them to export games in the same format. That's why they don't bother making some games for PAL. Too much work? *shrug(we need a shrug smilie)*

Actually, Japan use NTSC-J, while in the US they use NTSC. Japanese games wont work on US consoles.
Some good news for you though, the PS3 will be Region Free. So you dont have to worry anymore if the EU dont get any games.

[TheAbominatrix]

I dont think the difference betwen NTSC-J and NTSC are as numerous as the differences between NTSC-J and PAL.

[MecaKane]

I don't thnik there is a difference. It's just like putting region codes on DVDs. Works fine if it they player has the right code.

[TheAbominatrix]

But if there wasnt a difference, wouldnt PAL just be NTSC-E or something like that? PAL has to be at least a little different. I really have no clue, though.

[Madame Adequate]

Allow me to introduce the tip of the iceberg; THIS is, like, 5% of what we Europeans never saw:

Final Fantasy 4 (aka 2)
Final Fantasy 6 (aka 3)
Chrono Trigger
Star Ocean 1, 2
Breath of Fire 1, 3, 4, 5...
Seiken Densetsu 1, 3, 4, 5...
Super Mario RPG
Xenogears

IT SUCKS!!!

In England we got Suikoden I, II, and IV, Star Ocean 2, Breath of Fire III and IV, and re-releases of the pre-VI FF games.

I do think the situation is a joke, just pointing out a couple of errors in your statement.

Hopefully, if they follow through their promises to make the PS3 region-free, we'll be in far better shape here to get games released in Japan and America.

[MecaKane]

But if there wasnt a difference, wouldnt PAL just be NTSC-E or something like that? PAL has to be at least a little different. I really have no clue, though.

Oh, PAL's very different yah.
I meant NSTC-J and NSTC. They just add the region codes in there so they won't play on systems in other countries.

[Erdrick Holmes]

Did you guys get the Phantasy Star games? I heard that Europe got PSIV before the US did.

[Dreddz]

No, we got PSIV nearly 2 years after everwhere else :rolleyes2

[Markus. D]

which is a real shame.

[Dreddz]

One reason why i think I was ignorant was because I acted like EU was the worst off, Australia is usually a worse off than the EU. Although sometimes they do get it better than us.

[Madame Adequate]

One reason why i think I was ignorant was because I acted like EU was the worst off, Australia is usually a worse off than the EU. Although sometimes they do get it better than us.

That's true, Australia often gets shafted as well. What's importing from the US into Aus like though? For some reason I have the idea that it's pretty easy to do *Shrug*

[nik0tine]

I'm fairly certain there are adaptors that will let you play NTSC games, so you could just get one of those.

[Dreddz]

You usually chip your console to play Imports, or get a boot disc.
Whats this about adapters ?

[Mirage]

Yes, those would be known as modchips, and a good one costs about as much as a new game. And then you have to install it, which often involves soldering, and therefore you're risking smurfing up your console. You could ofcourse get some knowledgeable guy to do it for you, but those guys rarely give you a refund if they accidentially mess up. Boot disks are cheaper, but far less convenient to use. You also need a different boot disk to play PS1 games, and you can't make your DVD region-free at the same time.
All the chips do is to bypass the region (and copy) protection and alter the output for foreign games. That only proves how easy it would be for the manufacturers to let us play whatever games we wanted. However, they wish to control themselves when we are allowed to play this and that, just like the movie companies want to do with DVD regions.

[Rostum]

I'm fairly certain there are adaptors that will let you play NTSC games, so you could just get one of those.

Now I'm curious...