How Do You Become A Celebrity On EoFF?

[KentaRawr!]

I would have quoted someone and entered a super witty wittisism, but I will just say this:

What BoB said.

[Jack]

Hmmm.

Yeah, that was an assumption based on your "this cheered me up" and "this didn't" when you pointed out that you're not one even though you've been here for three years. Just like you're assuming that i'm stressed out by this, when all I am is amused.

Loony BoB raised the point of 3 years. I said "This cheered me up" because (believe it or not) I enjoyed the fact that there was a point to the question. As for the "this didn't", surely everyone (no matter their desire or direction) likes to believe that a higher level then themselves is possible? While I have no great want to change my character or personality to become a "celebrity", the idea that such a goal is possible for me is fine. The same goes for a lot of things. Surely you wanted (at one time or another) to be ABLE toget good grades at college and be ABLE to get the job you wanted? Whether you did or didn't is irrelevent. The fact the possibility is there is important.

It takes two to argue, so you arguing back proves you care just as much as anyone else.

I care for the argument. The question itself is (effectively) irrelevent if people ignore it. For example: If a scrap of paper is left on the ground, if ignored it is irrelevent. Even if this paper is the winning lottery ticket for millions, it is still irrelevent. Only until people notice and react to it, does it become relevent. However, it can still only be as relevent as "It's a piece of paper" or "This cleaners never clean up do they?".
The degree of relevency and "caring" relates to the reaction. My reaction (if you note) is to two things:
1)Kyono's argument
2)The concept raised by the question

We may well have developed into one of the primary species on the planet through questions such as this, and the planets far worse of because of it.

Your opinion...It's valid (granted) but I feel rather then slip into a "accepting" state ("I accept that people are/are not celebrities at EoFF" "I accept that water is/is not good for you") we SHOULD ask these questions. What is there to lose?

I don't know why you assume i'm being aggressive. Is a negative response automatically aggressive or something? Or maybe because I used a cuss word? You're reading too far into my dialect.

Considering I live in the UK where our dialects cary beyond most nations, I've never heard a "dialect" where a swear word was considered as normal banter. While at EoFF, I use the example of the "Queen's English" which is taught in every school/college/university in (and around) the world (except in USA and Canada). It's the most popualr form of English, and as such, the use of a the "cuss" word means a form of aggressive negation to the point.
And before you say it, I swear all the while IRL.
A negative response is not aggression. Rastilin's point to the topic was negative, yet I do not believe he is being aggressive.

The thread was a question, I asked a question too.

As are most in this topic. We're still discussing your question.

Results in football are of far greater meaning than how one becomes a celebrity on an internet forum.

Depends on your input and reaction to them. If a person has NEVER seen/played/heard of football but knew only of a internet forum, then this thread would be more important to him then if I said "Birmingham 0 - Leicester 2" wouldn't it?
The same can even go if a person was not aware of English or England itself, but only knew of France and the French language. If I say "Sandwich" they'd look at me odd wouldn't they?

(SPOILER)NOTE:Before anyone says "The French also use the word "sandwich" I'd like to point out that its a "borrowed" word. In the French language, there is NO word for sandwich, and they only accepted it because the rest of the world uses it. It is only a modern acceptance though, because of the rivalry between England and France.

I feel we should celebrate our fellow man more as well. But I think people who are considered "celebrities" should be doing something worth celebration.

There we go! You're questioning the word "Celebrity". So (working with Kyono here, who has done things to be a celebrity? Who DESERVES the status? Within the boundaries of EoFF, who has done good work?
You could argue IMO, that Cid is a celebrity because of his creation of this world. Any others?

I was curious as to why something such as this matters to anyone.
Edit: I pretty much agree with everything Raistlins said, too. I'd rather be myself and be a nobody than change who I am to be somebody.

I'm not sure WHY it matters, but it appears to so there you go. As for your final point, I agree with IMO. However, I'm willing to suspend this for the sake of discussion.

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ON TOPIC:

What do we have left? We've removed the view that longivtevity matters (nor can we round it down to an actual date). We also feel that beinga CK or Staff doesn't mean much.
Helping others is good, but this is limited exposure, because we have EoEo where everyone helps everyone else.

We also are not sure of what a "celebrity is?! Is a Ciddie winner? A staff recongnition? Someone who has done something worth celebration?

So what DO we have? The question still stands: How Do you become a celebrity at EoFF?

[Captain Maxx Power]

Gimmicks help a lot. Or being wierd. Or just be Neel, that works quite well.

[DK]

As for never hearing cursing in part of a normal dialect, are you serious? Wander round any college or place where teenagers hang out and it's quite obvious if you just listen that a lot of teens and young adults quite frequently use curse words in normal banter, for whatever reason, be it to emphasise a point or just because they can. It comes forth as a natural part of your vocabulary. Is that a good thing? Not necessarily, but eh.

Depends on your input and reaction to them. If a person has NEVER seen/played/heard of football but knew only of a internet forum, then this thread would be more important to him then if I said "Birmingham 0 - Leicester 2" wouldn't it?
The same can even go if a person was not aware of English or England itself, but only knew of France and the French language. If I say "Sandwich" they'd look at me odd wouldn't they?

How many people are likely to have never heard of/seen any sports yet know what an internet forum is and about becoming a celebrity on one is/means? Fact is supporting teams and the results of all sports played across the world bond many people together, gives people something to cheer and support, can bond people from many races and countries, e.t.c. I don't see how celebrity on an internet forum is comperable to that, but that's just me I suppose.

Man I'm too old for this [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img].

[boris no no]

Beating Psy at Tekken...twice

[Psychotic]

Beating Psy at Tekken...twice

Losing to Psy at Tekken...twice...also seems to work.

Actually three times 'cause I won this bout by default, as you didn't even show up.

[Jack]

As for never hearing cursing in part of a normal dialect, are you serious? Wander round any college or place where teenagers hang out and it's quite obvious if you just listen that a lot of teens and young adults quite frequently use curse words in normal banter, for whatever reason, be it to emphasise a point or just because they can. It comes forth as a natural part of your vocabulary. Is that a good thing? Not necessarily, but eh.

You're right, I do hear swear words being used. As i noted, I use them as well. But you said they were part of a dialect.

Dialect
1)A regional or social variety of a language distinguished by pronunciation, grammar, or vocabulary, especially a variety of speech differing from the standard literary language or speech pattern of the culture in which it exists: Cockney is a dialect of English.

2)A variety of language that with other varieties constitutes a single language of which no single variety is standard: the dialects of Ancient Greek.

3)The language peculiar to the members of a group, especially in an occupation; jargon: the dialect of science.

4)The manner or style of expressing oneself in language or the arts.

5)A language considered as part of a larger family of languages or a linguistic branch. Not in scientific use: Spanish and French are Romance dialects.

What you're proposing is that in modern clture, the swear word is okay. It isn't part of a dialect. Used in normal banter perhaps but not a dialect. They may be more prone to using the word, but it isn't necessarily part of a dialect. There are people who speak cockney who don't swear, and there are some who do. Speaking "Cockney" doesn't mean you swear.

While at EoFF, I use the example of the "Queen's English" which is taught in every school/college/university in (and around) the world (except in USA and Canada). It's the most popualr form of English, and as such, the use of a the "cuss" word means a form of aggressive negation to the point.

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How many people are likely to have never heard of/seen any sports yet know what an internet forum is and about becoming a celebrity on one is/means? Fact is supporting teams and the results of all sports played across the world bond many people together, gives people something to cheer and support, can bond people from many races and countries, e.t.c. I don't see how celebrity on an internet forum is comperable to that, but that's just me I suppose.

The fact you CAN have that situation means we have to accept it. There are people who care less about sports than EoFF (True) so it's possible. Think about the publication of celebrity magazines. People evidentedly care about celebrities, so if we narrow our field and associate it with EoFF (as I said earlier in the thread), we can see such a thing happening. Consider people's posts as how people judge their "status"... You're getting hung up on the "internet forum" thing. The internet is simply a forum of infomation. Like magazines. Like communication. A mass of opinions. If people can have opinions, can believe in celebrities, what stops them thinking of them in EoFF?

[Venom]

You have to be like Mika and get 130 usernotes within 2 days.

If only I could do that.;_;

[Shaun]

Regarding Shaun's post - Yes, there are celebrities at EoFF. A celebrity is someone that is famous. An EoFF celebrity is someone who is famous around the EoFF community. If you don't think they exist, you're terribly ignorant.

I am not terribly ignorant. Tell me, when you see one of these EoFF celebrities, do you think...

*gasp* Wow, [famous user's name] has replied to my post! He said my name! This is a truly FANTASTIC moment!

Okay, that was exaggerated. But the point is, you see these people online every day. You just think, "Oh, it's [famous user's name] posting again..." Celebrities are seriously respected. No one at EoFF is respected to that extent considering we are just communicating by text-based messages. There is no motive to look up to anyone here that highly. Sure, there are great people here, but I'm sure nobody wants this celebrity status, but most importantly: it doesn't exist.

//rant over

[NeoCracker]

Cid replyed my post to my posts twice in one thread that he himself stared, he said my Laptop was good for being a laptop, so he also complimented me. Top that one.

[Loony BoB]

Cid gets that kind of response. I've had it done to me before. I get told that I'm intimidating because "you're BoB!" and stuff. If Unne or Snizz or Bleys posts, people have been known to get excited.

Celebrities are not seriously respected. They're just famous. Let's take the dictionary.com definition - it's rather simple: A famous person.

It doesn't say they're respected. It doesn't say that people get excited that someone is in contact with them. It doesn't say that they have to be intimidating or anything of the sort. A celebrity is nothing but a famous person. So no, you're not ignorant, you just didn't understand what a celebrity really is.

If you respect all celebrities and look up to them, then you should really learn to put things into perspective, because celebrities are, for the most part, just ordinary regular people who happen to be famous for their line of work.

[NeoCracker]

You do realize i was kidding, your post makes it sound like you took my comment seriously.

[Loony BoB]

I wasn't referring to anyone in specific (such as yourself). I was referring to the fact that whenever Cid posts a thread, people turn it into a 'worship Cid' thread. I've known a few people to get excited because someone they think is really cool quoted them, too.

[NeoCracker]

sry then, pay no attentin to my previous post.

[KoShiatar]

Striptease to all the Staff and make love to Loony BoB

Do I really have to? é_è