Thoughts of the movie

[Ashley Schovitz]

X-2 had more story than this movie

[Ishin Ookami]

Omacle, you don't have to worry about offending me. But I do think you are in the wrong. Nomura is undoubtibly a storytelling hack. He fancies himself a competent director, and worthy successor to sakaguchi. He is neither. You claim this is my opinion, but the fact is his style is one of style over substance and intelligence. His direction in AC was absolutely hideous. Twirling a sword or posing does not good action choreography make. And the writing, dear god it was awful. Not only that but his aping of John Woo for various scenes (kadaj leaping over fenrir, the gunplay from yazoo) was clumsy and over worked. And the whole wuxia inspired elements (leaping around like Crouching tiger on crack) was also awful and overdone. Espescially the cloud tossing. And specifically Vincent telling cloud to fly, when thats his gig. also I havn't met anyone who can explain to me how cloud pulled omnislash Ver. 967 1111 out of his arsenal when you clearly see sephiroth stab his sword arm, directly in the shoulder joint. I dont care how strong you make cloud out to be, all the mako on earth isn't going to move an arm when the muscles that control that arm have been sliced.

So yah, Nomura can't tell a coherant or well written story to save his life. I've never seen one from him. I hope someday he'll pull it off. I loved FF once and would like to see the old girl return to her former glory. But I doubt Nomura is the man to do it.

His main character's are always the same. angsty moody swordsmen, sorry but after Sakaguchi who always came up with different themes and different types of leading characters, thats just awful. The one time he (nomura)went away from his leading male character mold was in KHI, and he immediately fell back into that mold for KHII. That shows a distinct lack of creativity. and of course theres his female characters. Two dimensional at the best of times would be a flowery compliment to his incompetence on how to write a female lead. And I still think he designs his females while watching soft core porn.

You may like this style, you may not value storytelling, or value it as much as flash, but to say that nomura has any talent is sheer delusion.

As for examples to my points, I've given them. I hardly feel like repeating myself.

P.S.

Spirits Within was infinitely better then AC. Not perfect, But still better written, plotted, directed, and animated.

[Avarice-ness]

I watch it on mute. It's pretty to look at, but I'd rather not try to kill any brain cells on trying to keep with the failing story.

[Ishin Ookami]

I watch it on mute. It's pretty to look at, but I'd rather not try to kill any brain cells on trying to keep with the failing story.

That I can sort of agree with. I like the detail that went into some of the backdrops and other surrounding environments. There was a decent sense of creativity from the CGI artists (not mind blowing, but respectable) in that regard. But the animation made me laugh at times, it was so wooden at times I was wondering if I was watching a puppet show.

[Rostum]

You know, I agree with you a lot. So don't get me wrong. I really like Sakaguchi and the fact that Nobuo Uematsu is doing work for Mistwalker is absolutely awesome.

I don't really like the additions such as FF7oC, FFX-2, etc. But there has been some decent stuff in there. I do enjoy the KH series, and I don't really see anything wrong with it. But I guess you also have to understand that there's a lot of different people working with Nomura, and a lot of limitations that come in the industry, which need to be worked around.

However, the fact that all they seem to come out with are remakes (though I welcome them), does show they are slipping.

I guess my point was really that a lot of what you are saying is seemingly your opinion. I'm not really cool with people who just seem to criticize a lot of peoples work (that's in general), and impose it on others to feel the same way.

[cloud21zidane16]

i really like it 10/10 for me I thought the voice acting was good except for Kadaj's lackies Yazoo and Loz and Loz was such a...dumb character the graphics were good the plot was good everything was good but yeah the mouthing was off.

yeah i agree, story wasnt great but it was a decent enough movie

[Amin_Strife]

Hi there all..first post here in the forums^^

Anyway, i wanted to give my toughts about the movie. For me...it was dissapointing. The story lacked plain and simple. Now of course i dont expect them to create a legendary epic in a 90-minutes movie but still, lower the action scenes and put more effort in to the story. Instead of such a damn long Bahamut fight, bridge the gap between FFVII and the film more. I've had a lot of discussions with my friend about this. He adores it...and he thinks i have too many expectations which is ''lame'' according to him. Well sorry...i dont know about you guys but if suddenly since almost 10 years the news arrives of a movie sequel of my favourite game ever complete with an absolutely awesome trailer(which showed Kadaj attacking Cloud and Cloud walkin in the church..short but very sweet..i found some of those scenes better than the actual scenes in the film itself) then i DO get pumped up. I DO expect a lot. Heck, Square Enix knows that FFVII is popular. Sure the action scenes are terrific, but i felt that it's all that. No story..just fight-scenes. Again, i found the Bahamut fight way too long. And then there's Sephiroth...it felt forced imho. Like: '' hey lets put Sephiroth in so everybody can drool over him again''. I love Sephiroth as a character. Heck he's my favourite character ever with Cloud. But it felt he was just there for show. I wanted more story. More bridging the gap from this and FFVII. Instead they come with 3 villains(which are really cool designed imo) that just come for ass-kickin. Sure, there was story..no doubt. But rather than all the Jenova/Mother stuff i wanted to know what all the characters were doing. Cloud is in the spotlight. Sure Tifa as well..but Cid.. Red XIII...Yuffie..Vincent..etc. all just in that way too long Bahamut scene. And i do agree with Loz being really dumb. When he said that line: ''You meenie'' i swear i wanted to kill him. What the hell is that for cheesy stupid line. Come on..at least you can make it sound more mature and realistic. And we know Loz is childish..but that line just ruins him totally imo. All in all i can talk hours about my dissapointments and the things i liked about the film. The film looked great(not as realistic as Spirits Within and anyone who disagrees go ahead..bite mexD), i really liked the rock music...and that scene where Kadaj sits down and looks up to Rufus and flashes of Sephi's face show up is awesome. But this wasn't what i expected. The oldest trailers had scenes that were so cool but eventually all left out from the final film. The story is lacking...i applaud Square Enix for making such a big step and continuing FFVII. I liked it overall..but when you look at the total package of story and character dedication..it lacked. I hope the Compilation of FFVII brings good stuff worthy of the FFVII name(unlike DoC which was really bad aside from the FMVs imo) and while AC wasn't terrible..it doesn't hold up to that name either. Luckily Crisis Core looks great so i just have to wait and see.

[Great Sephiroth]

Hey, I watched film again and again. It is quite perfect and motive me to play FFVII again. When you played and beat FFVII, go to watch FFVII:AC....It is a super-duper combination trust me!!
Anyway, I watched the film's early version. So, if you ignore what I wrote, don't surprise, maybe they fix them in the final versions.
I see that, in the film a lot of low-frame points and weaker graphics (different than general graphics) like a PS2 CGI movie...For example, when Cloud rides Fenrir to catch Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo in the tunnel...When Cloud give a slash to Loz's motorcycle and blow it up, Loz's face is in very very bad quality graphics...Am I wrong? So, maybe they fix it eh?
Anyway, I find some stupidity in AC:
1) Why Rufus have a eye-band? Near the end, we saw that Rufus' eye is healthy? It's so ridiculous...
2) How Kadaj hug Jenova's head and turn-out Sephiroth? Why Loz or Yazoo didn't do this? OR, what if Loz and Yazoo were still alive? How can they turn-out Sephiroth? A three-silver haired man combination-and Jenova's head=Super Sephiroth (or like my nickname Great Sephiroth )??
That's all for now...
p.s:Amin_strife, we have same avatars

[Jon Thompson]

That's what I thought his movie was, a piece of turd. I was looking forward to it, thinking it would be similar to Spirits Within (not graphically) but in terms of quality. No, none, at all. Didn't much care for the plot. It was alright but the last twenty minutes simply killed it. I know it's set in the final fantasy world but the last bit looked so ridiculous on film it was ridiculous. Some things work in movies, some do not. So many final fantasy fans hated Spirits Within because it was nothing like final fantasy. Simple because there were no chocobos, moogles, magic powers or anything of the sort they didn't recognize it as final fantasy. It was, at it's core final fantasy. Characters/plot are final fantasyesc. If you took away materia from Final Fantasy Seven the plot, for the most part would be exactly the same. The story does need those things but GAMEPLAY does. I give Advent Children 3/10

[Silver Haired Brothers]

I'd give it 120%. Amazing. Great story line. Although It would maybe be hard to understand quite a bit if you hadn't played the game.

[play-on-4eva]

I thought visually the movie was brilliant. the camera angles and scenery were both great but i did find the story hard to understand proberly because i havent play FFVII.

[IronOcean]

the movie was great. Something more for all of us who loved the game. I agree the flow of the movie is not that good and you have to read alot on the internet to find out alot of what they dont tell you. But look at how long they took to do it and how well they did it. It left me wanting more which we may never get but i give it a 9/10

[No.78]

This film is worth nothing to me without the action scenes

[LynetteCloudburst]

The game was awesome and the movie was awsome! loved it! XD

[Relapse]

Awesome, tho i didn't care much about the story I just watched it for the awesome graphics and battle scenes for the first maybe 10 times :$ Altogether, I think I've watched it around 30 times now.

9/10