Quote Originally Posted by Amaru
Quote Originally Posted by Griff
Like has been said before, the writer's are going to tell the people what they want if it will help business. Since a vast majority of fans want to believe that emo momma's boy is the greatest villian of all time, the idea of him being controlled would tarnish his image, and alot of people don't want that. If the people aren't led to believe afterwards that Sephy was the main villian, then sales of AC, BC, CC, and DC will drop because ff7 has the largest fanboy totals in the world, and if they don't get what they want, you just know alot of them are going to boycott the other projects.
I think it's rather sad. At first, I just thought that you were misguided and misinformed, since you tried throwing non-existent plot holes about the game around, but now it's quite clear that you're another of the 'anti-everything FFVII' camp. You don't give the game any credits, you don't give the main villain any credit, you don't give any of it's fans any credit, and you don't even give the game writer's any credit.

Like I said, I think it's rather sad...
I think it's rather sad that you've already started on the petty insults. It usually takes a few pages for that to happen in these kinds of debates. As for my "non-existant plot holes", I just use the ones I find to be most discussed on internet forums such as this one. So far your best excuses to them have been, someone must have recovered Masamune from the Lifestream and used it to kill the president (i might add you conveniently dodged my point on Sephiroth being the only one able to use the blade, as said directly in the game), Weapon attacked Mideel because all humans were seen as harming the planet (so apparently killing off a town of 15 people does more good for the planet than taking out who knows how many in places like Gold Saucer)
and Sephiroth's will took control of Jenova and broke out of ShinRa (hense the whole argument in this thread). Alot of the things you've said about who did what in this game as been simple theories. Let me explain something to you. When an element of the story cannot be directly proven by any means other than theories, it is a PLOT HOLE . And also, incase you didn't notice in the other thread we were in, I listed FF7 as being just as good a game as all the other Final Fantasies other than FF2. I loved this game, I just call things as I see them. I'm not "anti-everything FF7". I give the game credit where it deserves. Just because I don't like Sephiroth doesn't mean I don't give him credit as a main villian. I never said he wasn't. Sin is the main villian in FFX but it's still being controlled. Why is it so hard to believe that it could be the same case for Sephy? I don't give any credit to the fan(boy/girl)s of the game because they refuse to look at the story rationally and logically, and quite frankly they won't care about what I say anyways, so why should I give them credit? And as for the writers, take it from someone who has been studying business his whole life, if anything is going to help a company make money, as long as it's legal, anyone working for the company is going to exploit it as best they can. It may not always be the most honest practice, but it is one of the most common.