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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage
    I like your take at this.
    Thanks.

    I'm actually working on a fancfiction about Tidus' experiences during FFX-2, and I'm using that as part of the premise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nosebleed
    Finally a chance to link to the essays I wiki'd.

    http://www.eyesonff.com/members/wiki...uyinAnAnalysis
    As always, Masamune∙1600's analysis is very authoritative.
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    I always though that Shuyin was part of Tidus. Tidus is a recarnation of Shuyin. (SPOILER)Tidus never really existed, instead he was just a dream of the fayth, because they remembered Shuyin. Shuyin, however did not die peacfully. That's why we see him in X-2. He thinks he sees Lenne, because of the dress. Lenne and Yuna also look very similar. Which leads me to believe that maybe Yuna is a recarnation. But that probably wouldn't be true considering Yuna was never in the fayth's dream world according to the two games. Tidus was in Zanarkand (the dream world) so that proves this.

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    In the game it says he's a shadow, whether that has any significance or not.

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    Well, actually, that was a rude criticization of everyone else but the poster.

    Anyways, he's just like a ghost made of pyreflies.

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    no he's just a guy who looks like tidus mabye a sibling of tidus his mum could of had an affair with someone else thats why he looks simmalar (poor jecht) lol my theory anyway after tidus went to spira 1000years into the future his mum got lonely and needed a sex puppet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun_lawless
    no he's just a guy who looks like tidus mabye a sibling of tidus his mum could of had an affair with someone else thats why he looks simmalar (poor jecht) lol my theory anyway after tidus went to spira 1000years into the future his mum got lonely and needed a sex puppet
    O_O... I think I'm speechless. Except for these two sentences I just said. And these after.

    BG-57's point of the Japanese idea of hatred and ghosts and haunting n' such... It's all really good, I should have made that connection before. I like his take on the situation.
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    lol it is abit hard to understand and you might not believe but thats my theory

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    wait i got something here that'll explain it all better let's see i'll attache it if u don't mind........ i got it from ff site don't remember the name LoL
    it is not mine but it'll help u understand more if i found anything else i'll send it to u stright away promise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Macwere
    wait i got something here that'll explain it all better let's see i'll attache it if u don't mind........ i got it from ff site don't remember the name LoL
    it is not mine but it'll help u understand more if i found anything else i'll send it to u stright away promise
    Pretty good compilation of what the FFX and FFX2 Ultimania guides and the game have. Do you know who is the author ?
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    no sorry i don't remeber where i got it from... hehe.. i travel through the internet and just save and read whatever i find
    but i think it is wait... i think i remember go to
    www.ffcompendium.com/h/story.shtml
    then choose the ff you like and you'll see it's complete story... this site is also full of funfictions
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    Great link, thanks!
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    you are welcome buddy ^_^
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    The version I like goes like this. Although his emotions live on in the real world, there is a Shuyin in Dream Zanarkand, and Tidus is his descendent 1000 years later. (Perhaps Shuyin and Lenne were able to be together in Dream Zanarkand?)

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    Except that Shuyin and Lenne were from the Real Zanarkand, which got destroyed 1000 years ago. Since the the Fayth that dreamed up Dream Zanarkand were originally the citizens of Real Zanarkand, no doubt many of them knew Lenne and Shuyin personally.

    So perhaps it was inevitable that the unconscious collective memories of the Fayth created Tidus 1000 years later. Although it may have been a case of the monkeys with typewriters.

    Tidus seems to have none of Shuyin's memories though, even if he is a close physical copy of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny_Griever
    I always though that Shuyin was part of Tidus. Tidus is a recarnation of Shuyin. (SPOILER)Tidus never really existed, instead he was just a dream of the fayth, because they remembered Shuyin. Shuyin, however did not die peacfully. That's why we see him in X-2. He thinks he sees Lenne, because of the dress. Lenne and Yuna also look very similar. Which leads me to believe that maybe Yuna is a recarnation. But that probably wouldn't be true considering Yuna was never in the fayth's dream world according to the two games. Tidus was in Zanarkand (the dream world) so that proves this.
    Tidus did exist though, in the same way as summoned Aeons exist. You could say Tidus actually is the same as an aeon, just not as powerful, and not aware of it himself (not until the end anyway). Also, Yuna didn't look similiar to Lenne. Shuyin was fooled by the dressphere, which projected Lenne's personality onto Yuna. I think that makes sense, as Shuyin was basically a ghost. I don't think ghosts are fooled by appearances, that's why he instead saw Lenne's 'spirit'.
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