Are you aware that Holy Blood, Holy Grail was written by 3 people? Are you also aware of the fact that much of the research in the book can be relegated to subjective interpretation?Originally Posted by o_O
The Ordre de Sion was not necessarily the same as the Knights Templar. (By the way, ‘Knights’ is not written with an apostropheOriginally Posted by o_O
). It has been insinuated that the Knights Templar were the military arm of the Ordre de Sion, but this is once again a subjective notion which does not have definite support. It is also interesting how you suddenly open up about the Ordre de Sion, while in your first post above you make blatantly erroneous statements by just taking the Priory of Sion into account. In regards to the geneology charts, I never brought those up, but you are correct to state that it was most likely Plantard and his organization that fabricated them.
This is a subjective notion and has no bearing on my argument. You are responding to my last post in an argumentative fashion but you are not actually arguing anything. I never brought up the Dossier Secrets as legitimate documents. You are failing to see the big picture here. The big picture is that there is more to this than one megalomaniac in France who fabricated historical documents to support his claim for the French throne. There is also the mystery as of yet unresolved in Rennes-le-Chateau with Berenger Sauniere; there are the Cathars of the Middle Ages; there are the countless Apocrypha (both of Judaism and Christianity) which recount strikingly different portrayals of Jesus Christ and other individuals in his time; there are the Knights Templar and the question of there rapid acquisition of wealth and power, not to mention the disappearance of their treasure; there are the underlying themes of Arcadia and the Rosicrucian and Freemason involvement in the matter of an alternate history of Christianity; there is the surge of Holy Grail writings and allusions during the Middle Ages which appear to be related to some Christian Apocrypha; there are concepts of the French dynasties and their relations to Christianity’s alternate history; and of course, there is the Ordre de Sion and the Priory of Sion, which you fortunately now acknowledge as being two separate entities.Originally Posted by o_O
The research has already been done and if you choose not to believe it, then that is entirely up to you. It hasn’t been proven of course, but neither has the Bible. Some people prefer one view, and some people prefer the other. I am limited to what I can say in this post because I do not want to reveal some of my own research, but I can tell you that Sion, France, Jesus Christ, and Mary Magdalene are much more related than the false writings of Pierre Plantard.
The oncoming of the French Merovingian dynasty 450 years after the time of Christ is irrelevant because descendants of Christ could have intermarried in this dynasty, therefore further sheltering and protecting any kind of ‘bloodline’ within a royal kingdom. The history of the Merovingian’s is not complete, therefore making assumptions about their ‘creation’ and calling them an ‘organization’ is completely mistaken. Also, the Priory of Sion has never made its intentions fully clear, and even if the Dossiers Secrets and other documents (such as Le Serpent Rouge) were proven to be fabrications of Pierre Plantard, the true intention of the organization may still remain unclear (especially now since Plantard has passed away). The bloodline of Christ, however, does play a central role in all of these cryptic enigmas, and it warrants much more than a careless dismissal of Plantard’s short-lived organization.Originally Posted by o_O
Christianity has greater credibility because of tradition and traditional beliefs. People who have believed one story their entire lives are not about to abandon their dreams and belief systems for something they just heard. You are confusing credibility with truth, which is actually a rather interesting sophism, but overall quite unoriginal. You must also remember, that if the bloodline of Christ and the organizations surrounding it are true, then that version of Christianity is much, much, older than the organization of the first Christian Church. For example, Scientology is about 40 years old, but yet you see previous Christians and members of other religions subscribing to it, despite Christianity being much older. Age has little to do with what we are after: the truth.Originally Posted by o_O
Belief and faith create different concepts of ‘facts’ and ‘knowledge.’ No one is ‘right’ until something is PROVEN right or something is proven wrong. Since we are talking about religion here, that is unlikely to happen. Therefore, no one is actually ‘right,’ but some people ‘know’ that Mary Magdalene was married to Jesus Christ and that she rules. In the same manner, some people 'know' that The Da Vinci Code is all bull and that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.Originally Posted by o_O
P.S. BOW DOWN TO MARY MAGDALENE like a Mo'Smurfer!!!!
-LYCHON




). It has been insinuated that the Knights Templar were the military arm of the Ordre de Sion, but this is once again a subjective notion which does not have definite support. It is also interesting how you suddenly open up about the Ordre de Sion, while in your first post above you make blatantly erroneous statements by just taking the Priory of Sion into account. In regards to the geneology charts, I never brought those up, but you are correct to state that it was most likely Plantard and his organization that fabricated them.
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